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Re: when did Fuel Injection start?
[Re: 70Cuda383]
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01/14/12 07:36 PM
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Any of the injected 318/360's can be changed back to carb with a minimum of effort.
yup. and make more power to boot.
go get a Magnum small block, they have better heads and roller cams vs the LA engines. and they bolt right in like an LA block.
all you need to do is change the intake manifold and distributor, and your 2001 5.9L EFI motor just turned into a "1970s carb'ed V8"
unless you were going for originality, I see no reason to go with an LA motor
Isn't there an issue with different intake bolt angles with this?
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Re: when did Fuel Injection start?
[Re: RodStRace]
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01/14/12 08:49 PM
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DaytonaTurbo
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Any of the injected 318/360's can be changed back to carb with a minimum of effort.
yup. and make more power to boot.
go get a Magnum small block, they have better heads and roller cams vs the LA engines. and they bolt right in like an LA block.
all you need to do is change the intake manifold and distributor, and your 2001 5.9L EFI motor just turned into a "1970s carb'ed V8"
unless you were going for originality, I see no reason to go with an LA motor
Isn't there an issue with different intake bolt angles with this?
Yes you have to either redrill and tap the heads for the LA intake manifold bolt angle or put on an aftermarket intake w/ the magnum bolt angle.
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Re: when did Fuel Injection start?
[Re: DaytonaTurbo]
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01/14/12 08:57 PM
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Even though they're small, the the things you guys mention are why it will probably get an LA motor. I know the roller stuff is better but the LA stuff has held up this long, no reason why I can't keep it going.
Thanks for the help guys.
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Re: when did Fuel Injection start?
[Re: DaytonaTurbo]
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01/15/12 01:40 AM
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No, the HP is not a big deal to me. Maybe I will just keep it a 360 if possible. It's just a driver, or will be. No offroading, no racing, just need to be a reliable truck
1971 Plymouth Satellite
408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG
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Re: when did Fuel Injection start?
[Re: roe]
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01/15/12 12:43 PM
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You're right. WAYYYYYY too much work to put a carb on a Magnum motor!  http://www.ebay.com/itm/SB-Mopar-340-360...=item19c9171043or you can buy name brand parts for double the money. electric fuel pump? nothing hard about that. and it fixes issues with cranking to fill a dry carb bowl, or vapor lock issues if you had them. and an electric fuel pump can be had for less than $100 at the power level you're after. electric fan isn't a big deal either. you can get OEM fans that move massive air for cheap from dealerships, and even cheaper from salvage yards. and I'm pretty sure you can change water pumps for one that has an outlet on the driver side if that's what your car uses. I've not done it myself though. top doesn't matter, the water neck comes vertical out the top of the engine, so just use your original radiator hose and nothing to worry about. In the end, it's your choice, but food for thought, my stock 5.9/360 Magnum has a bone stock long block, hughes whiplash roller cam with their springs/retainers, a single plane intake, and headers, and it is nearly a 400 hp motor! I made 285 hp and 325 tq to the wheels, which is right up around 375-ish crank hp. drop in an LA, or buy a used Magnum for the same price, spend an extra $400 on an intake, fuel pump, electric fan and controller, etc. and you've got 400hp potential on stock heads.
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Re: when did Fuel Injection start?
[Re: 70Cuda383]
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01/15/12 06:18 PM
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You're right. WAYYYYYY too much work to put a carb on a Magnum motor!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SB-Mopar-340-360...=item19c9171043
or you can buy name brand parts for double the money.
electric fuel pump? nothing hard about that. and it fixes issues with cranking to fill a dry carb bowl, or vapor lock issues if you had them. and an electric fuel pump can be had for less than $100 at the power level you're after.
electric fan isn't a big deal either. you can get OEM fans that move massive air for cheap from dealerships, and even cheaper from salvage yards.
and I'm pretty sure you can change water pumps for one that has an outlet on the driver side if that's what your car uses. I've not done it myself though. top doesn't matter, the water neck comes vertical out the top of the engine, so just use your original radiator hose and nothing to worry about.
In the end, it's your choice, but food for thought, my stock 5.9/360 Magnum has a bone stock long block, hughes whiplash roller cam with their springs/retainers, a single plane intake, and headers, and it is nearly a 400 hp motor!
I made 285 hp and 325 tq to the wheels, which is right up around 375-ish crank hp.
drop in an LA, or buy a used Magnum for the same price, spend an extra $400 on an intake, fuel pump, electric fan and controller, etc. and you've got 400hp potential on stock heads.
Never said its too hard, I just dont need it for what Im after. Right now, for me, money is tight, and Im not able to spend the extra money needed to make the changes necessary to drop in the magnum. Thats why a few posts back I said if it didnt increase the cost too much it was an option, nothing about it being to hard.
I just need to get this thing back reliable, and then it'll probably get sold. If Im going to spend the extra coin to get a nice magnum and a little more power, then I'd put the magnum in my satellite, and put the 360 from my satellite into the truck. But, money is tight so it'll probably just get a solid running stock motor so its on the road again.
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408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG
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Re: when did Fuel Injection start?
[Re: roe]
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01/15/12 07:12 PM
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Also, werent there LA 360 roller motors from like '88 through '91 or so?
1971 Plymouth Satellite
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Re: when did Fuel Injection start?
[Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY]
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01/16/12 10:13 AM
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Fair enough. yea, if you're just looking to get it running to sell it, then do it the cheapest way possible.
I know money can be tight, and if it was mine that I planned on keeping, I'd rather wait a little longer to get it running, and use the newer, more powerful engine.
if I was keeping the truck, a year after the swap was done, I'd really be kicking myself for NOT going with the Magnum engine.
Good luck with your project, hope you get it all worked out!
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