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1972 Dart + 440-727 what are my cheap options #1153259 01/08/12 11:54 PM 01/08/12 11:54 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 394 D dusterguy OP enthusiast
dusterguy OP enthusiast D Joined: May 2004 Posts: 394	I have a rust free Dart with a spool mount k-frame and a 440-727. What is the cheapest way to mount them in and what about exhaust manifolds/headers? This is going to be a fast street car with no heater or air. Schumacher mounts or late c-body engine mounts? Please someone help me with this project!

Re: 1972 Dart + 440-727 what are my cheap options [Re: dusterguy] #1153260 01/09/12 12:01 AM 01/09/12 12:01 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA Jim_Lusk I Live Here
Jim_Lusk I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA	If you have a small block spool k-member, build a copy of the old Direct Connection k-member. You can't install the engine cheaper if you can cut and weld. Directions are in the tech pages at www.bigblockdart.com.

Re: 1972 Dart + 440-727 what are my cheap options [Re: Jim_Lusk] #1153261 01/09/12 01:23 AM 01/09/12 01:23 AM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,894 Mira Loma, CA 69B3GT top fuel
69B3GT top fuel Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,894 Mira Loma, CA	I used Schumacher mounts and Hooker Supercomps for my 440-727 swap. Did it for real cheap. ($150 for mounts and headers.) With that being said, all my swap stuff has been used because thats all I can afford

Re: 1972 Dart + 440-727 what are my cheap options [Re: dusterguy] #1153262 01/09/12 09:27 AM 01/09/12 09:27 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	68-70 (& prob later) HP ex manifolds flow well/fit perfect & Andy made 550 horsepower w them on a 470 build (use dynomax muffs/mandrel bends/X pipe) live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: 1972 Dart + 440-727 what are my cheap options [Re: dusterguy] #1153263 01/09/12 09:36 AM 01/09/12 09:36 AM
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Commando1 master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL	Quote: What is the cheapest way... This is going to be a fast street car... Please someone help me with this project! Everyone wants to show you how smart they are and jump in and tell you exactly how to do it. The proper place to start is to know more about you and your circumstances. How old are you. What are your skills. What $ resources do you have. Etc, etc, etc.............

Re: 1972 Dart + 440-727 what are my cheap options [Re: dusterguy] #1153264 01/09/12 10:58 AM 01/09/12 10:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	fast and manifolds don't go together unless your are building a FAST car. Fenderwell headers would be the easiest however there are under chassis headers available for A-bodys now. They are a PITB to hang (from what I'm told). Not sure about the mounts, most guys w/ 440 A's go w/ Schumacher mounts. Another thing I've seen is goinf with braded brake lines from the master cylinder out. This way you can move it out of the way when needed. [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: 1972 Dart + 440-727 what are my cheap options [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1153265 01/09/12 01:08 PM 01/09/12 01:08 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 394 D dusterguy OP enthusiast
dusterguy OP enthusiast D Joined: May 2004 Posts: 394	I am not a kid by any means. I am 41 years old and have access to most machinery. I just want to know the most economical means to accomplish this as I am trying to juggle 3 projects at the same time. Is there a decent set of headers under $200.00 to make this work or am I stuck with the $600.00 versions? I am just dropping a used engine and trans into this to have a reasonably fast street car. No drag strips in my future.

Re: 1972 Dart + 440-727 what are my cheap options [Re: dusterguy] #1153266 01/09/12 02:07 PM 01/09/12 02:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,070 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,070 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Is there a decent set of headers under $200.00 to make this work or am I stuck with the $600.00 versions? I am just dropping a used engine and trans into this to have a reasonably fast street car. No drag strips in my future. No , the quick and cheap exhaust is to use HP manifolds unless you can find a cheapy set of used B/E 1 3/4 tube headers , those are said to work with a little

Re: 1972 Dart + 440-727 what are my cheap options [Re: JohnRR] #1153267 01/09/12 02:36 PM 01/09/12 02:36 PM
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65rbdodge master 6 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,920 n.e. pa.	the hedman b/e(pn ends in 030) headers will only work with a 383/400. as said above they require lots of modification to work with a 440. i have these headers in my 71 dart w/400. they are tight now requireing many dings, i cant imagine the headache of making them work with a 440. i used a modified 73+ k-frame(per the bigblockdart tech pages) and the 73+ BB spool mounts.

Re: 1972 Dart + 440-727 what are my cheap options [Re: 65rbdodge] #1153268 01/09/12 02:44 PM 01/09/12 02:44 PM
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jake4cars top fuel J Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,973 SoCal	I think there is a set of fenderwells for sale in the race parts section

Re: 1972 Dart + 440-727 what are my cheap options [Re: jake4cars] #1153269 01/09/12 02:48 PM 01/09/12 02:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	These come up from time to time on e-bay...Tri-Y, They seem to fit A-bodys pretty good. No idea what they cost. 7009607-mopp_0901_05_z+tri_y_headers+front_view.jpg (74 downloads)

Re: 1972 Dart + 440-727 what are my cheap options [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1153270 01/09/12 05:53 PM 01/09/12 05:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,070 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,070 U.S.S.A.	Quote: These come up from time to time on e-bay...Tri-Y, They seem to fit A-bodys pretty good. No idea what they cost. Very interesting , never seen those , who makes them ?

Re: 1972 Dart + 440-727 what are my cheap options [Re: JohnRR] #1153271 01/09/12 06:32 PM 01/09/12 06:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Quote: Quote: These come up from time to time on e-bay...Tri-Y, They seem to fit A-bodys pretty good. No idea what they cost. Very interesting , never seen those , who makes them ? no idea, google 440 tri-y headers

Re: 1972 Dart + 440-727 what are my cheap options [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1153272 01/09/12 07:04 PM 01/09/12 07:04 PM
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Skeptic master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,395 The Pale Blue Dot	Those are the Schumacher headers, small tube-basically between a manifold and a full lenght header. $525 uncoated per their website.

Re: 1972 Dart + 440-727 what are my cheap options [Re: Skeptic] #1153273 01/09/12 07:13 PM 01/09/12 07:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,070 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,070 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Those are the Schumacher headers, small tube-basically between a manifold and a full lenght header. $525 uncoated per their website. For some reason I though the schu's were shorter and used a Ball and Socket for the outlet ??? But just looked and you are correct .

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