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Re: 1969 Barracuda M code [Re: OneOfMany] #1148947
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I wonder if Chrysler was allowed to use the extra 140 M-code Dart production to make the homologation of 500 per model (for the Cuda) that seemed to have been the number of the day for approval? 640 Dart's and 360 (358) Cuda's gave them the 1000 units needed

As I said the only way I knew about them back in '69 was from an actual small "sidebar" article in one of the magazines. You'd pass right by it if you were not interested in the Dart or Cuda it was so short. That magazine photo I posted above was a test done in Drag Racing Magazine that headlined the Sox 6BBL road runner test and said nothing about the M-code Dart test on the cover so even the media did their part to hide them too


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I wonder if Chrysler was allowed to use the extra 140 M-code Dart production to make the homologation of 500 per model (for the Cuda) that seemed to have been the number of the day for approval? 640 Dart's and 360 (358) Cuda's gave them the 1000 units needed

As I said the only way I knew about them back in '69 was from an actual small "sidebar" article in one of the magazines. You'd pass right by it if you were not interested in the Dart or Cuda it was so short. That magazine photo I posted above was a test done in Drag Racing Magazine that headlined the Sox 6BBL road runner test and said nothing about the M-code Dart test on the cover so even the media did their part to hide them too


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Mike, i would love to find/see this "sidebar" article you speak of! YOUR HOMEWORK assignment is to find this article!!! LOL
I knew a guy that told me his relative was a test car driver or writer back then and they got a M-code A-body(forget if Dart or 'cuda) and it had a 6pak on it! So maybe Chrysler first thought of offering the same package as the B-body brothers?

As far as RoadRunnerJD's comment about auto vs 4spd....All my cars are 4spd and i thought i would NEVER own an automatic muscle mopar including a M-code 'cuda('cuda cause that's what i'm into, love Darts also). Well thinking this i even did a trade/cash deal for a set of REAL M-code A-body exhaust manifolds i had for a rare '69 340 'cuda(A56) 4spd coupe!.....Remember i said i wouldn't own a automatic car?...Well out at the Mopar NATS one summer i rode in my friends A12 RR AUTOMATIC car and it was an awesome RIDE(won't go into details how i thought we were going to crash at high speed going sideways...thanks to Ed Cook for saving it and Scotty's A12 auto pulling ahead). I said to myself the automatic was really ok! Long story short, there's now 2 M-code 'cudas in my stable(you can see the 1st one i bought earlier in this post, sold my real '70 440-6, bench 4spd, Bee to buy it)!!! Also the caretaker of the registry below!!!


I'm the CARETAKER of Weinstats '69 440 'cuda registry and have 104 of the 360 cars to date. 84 fastbacks/20 coupes. Always looking for new(REAL M-code) '69 440 'cudas to add to the registry so drop me a note if any are found or known. This isn't a publicly released registry. Thanks, Dave
Re: 1969 Barracuda M code [Re: big-block-dave] #1148949
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Now I was told that the reason for no 4-speed behind the '69 440 M-code Dart and Cuda was there is or was no DANA that fit the A-body and the 440 with a 4-speed ALWAYS got a DANA.....is this true?


I'll have to go back to my stack of '68, '69 car magazines and find that press release statement


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I wonder if Chrysler was allowed to use the extra 140 M-code Dart production to make the homologation of 500 per model (for the Cuda) that seemed to have been the number of the day for approval? 640 Dart's and 360 (358) Cuda's gave them the 1000 units needed

As I said the only way I knew about them back in '69 was from an actual small "sidebar" article in one of the magazines. You'd pass right by it if you were not interested in the Dart or Cuda it was so short. That magazine photo I posted above was a test done in Drag Racing Magazine that headlined the Sox 6BBL road runner test and said nothing about the M-code Dart test on the cover so even the media did their part to hide them too


(sorry about Nick Corbo )

MikeR




Mike, i would love to find/see this "sidebar" article you speak of! YOUR HOMEWORK assignment is to find this article!!! LOL
I knew a guy that told me his relative was a test car driver or writer back then and they got a M-code A-body(forget if Dart or 'cuda) and it had a 6pak on it! So maybe Chrysler first thought of offering the same package as the B-body brothers?

As far as RoadRunnerJD's comment about auto vs 4spd....All my cars are 4spd and i thought i would NEVER own an automatic muscle mopar including a M-code 'cuda('cuda cause that's what i'm into, love Darts also). Well thinking this i even did a trade/cash deal for a set of REAL M-code A-body exhaust manifolds i had for a rare '69 340 'cuda(A56) 4spd coupe!.....Remember i said i wouldn't own a automatic car?...Well out at the Mopar NATS one summer i rode in my friends A12 RR AUTOMATIC car and it was an awesome RIDE(won't go into details how i thought we were going to crash at high speed going sideways...thanks to Ed Cook for saving it and Scotty's A12 auto pulling ahead). I said to myself the automatic was really ok! Long story short, there's now 2 M-code 'cudas in my stable(you can see the 1st one i bought earlier in this post, sold my real '70 440-6, bench 4spd, Bee to buy it)!!! Also the caretaker of the registry below!!!




I am also a 4-speed guy, and may still turn my tubbed M-Code into a 4-speed, though when JohnRR found the M-Code block 8 digits off my serial number it might change my mind.


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Re: 1969 Barracuda M code [Re: Rhinodart] #1148951
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I am also a 4-speed guy, and may still turn my tubbed M-Code into a 4-speed, though when JohnRR found the M-Code block 8 digits off my serial number it might change my mind.




Does it have the holes drilled for the driver's side motor mount and that's how you and John knew it was a M-code block



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Yep it has the holes, plus the VIN on the block could only be for an M-Code A-body.


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Re: 1969 Barracuda M code [Re: Rhinodart] #1148953
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Yep it has the holes, plus the VIN on the block could only be for an M-Code A-body.


A "B" plant VIN and is it a HP or HP2 shift?

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I just found this ad in an old Hi-Performance Cars. They also have an artcle where they got a hold of the first test car before the other mags did and put a Six Pack on it. COOL STUFF!

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Yep it has the holes, plus the VIN on the block could only be for an M-Code A-body.


A "B" plant VIN and is it a HP or HP2 shift?




B code VIN and the last digit of the VIN was off by 6 actually, all digits are the same except the last ... car was 8 , engine block is 2 or vice versa .

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I am also a 4-speed guy, and may still turn my tubbed M-Code into a 4-speed, though when JohnRR found the M-Code block 8 digits off my serial number it might change my mind.




Does it have the holes drilled for the driver's side motor mount and that's how you and John knew it was a M-code block



MikeR




Yours look better , the block I got looked like they were done by hand ..

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Yep, I just went and looked at it this morning, pretty crude! I have a template a buddy of mine made 20 some years ago in case anyone needed the exact dimesions to make an A-Body 440 block. I also have a 440 block that has two drilled pads near the head just like the A-Body 383 block have, wonder why they did that?


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Re: 1969 Barracuda M code [Re: Rhinodart] #1148958
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Are the last 3 digets on that block 686? I ask because my GTS is from Ohio and you just never know.
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So would an M-code Cuda or Dart make a good F.A.S.T. car and has anyone competed with one yet?

I know stock tire size would be an issue but you could go one width size larger (F70-14 to G70-14) from what I'm told for a little help.





I know the intake/carb combo and the manafolds would be a killer for making any real power.


....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!
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My M-Code is 282308 and the block is 282300. Can't get much closer! If someone still has the car the block goes to then let me know!


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Hi,

This is a little off subject but I am looking for that exhaust manifold in the photo. would you are anyone else have one for sale. I have two M Codes, one is stock the other is totally not.

The thing with these car is it was the streetable version of the SS/HA cars that are still the fastest supers stockers around. There was a lot of hammering to get the Hemi in one back then but the 440 was a good second. Big engine, little car, only meant to go straight and fast. They are a best kept secret.






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Hi,

This is a little off subject but I am looking for that exhaust manifold in the photo. would you are anyone else have one for sale. I have two M Codes, one is stock the other is totally not.

The thing with these car is it was the streetable version of the SS/HA cars that are still the fastest supers stockers around. There was a lot of hammering to get the Hemi in one back then but the 440 was a good second. Big engine, little car, only meant to go straight and fast. They are a best kept secret.






Jeff

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I'm looking for one also, so if someone has two let me know after you let Jeff know and he has his

One of the best kept Mopar secrets shsssssssss

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My M-Code is 282308 and the block is 282300. Can't get much closer! If someone still has the car the block goes to then let me know!




I thought the block was 282302 ?

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I also have a 440 block that has two drilled pads near the head just like the A-Body 383 block have, wonder why they did that?




Some 440s have those mounts to attach equipment, like smog pumps on the later ones.

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My M-Code is 282308 and the block is 282300. Can't get much closer! If someone still has the car the block goes to then let me know!




I thought the block was 282302 ?




Nope, I just looked at the block and the car and that is what is on them. I just got a call yesterday from a guy who was looking at a pair of the manifolds and asked me what they were worth. I told him to buy them and give me first chance at them since I don't have them for my car yet.


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Re: 1969 Barracuda M code [Re: Rhinodart] #1148966
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thanks , I'll stop incorrecting you ...

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