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440 vibration issues...
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12/22/11 01:57 PM
12/22/11 01:57 PM
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GrnMagic77
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Hopefully quick and simple solution... I have a '76 440 engine mated to a '67 727 transmission and am having some vibration problems at I would guess around 1000 to 1500 RPM's with the car parked in the garage,at least that is where it is very noticable.As far as I was aware big block engine are balanced to themselves as are the torque converter in the transmissions,is this correct? Would the flex plate on the '76 engine have anything to do balancing? When I installed the engine I had to swap out the original flex plate bolted on the crank with one from a 383 to match the bolts up with the converter on the transmission,could this be the problem? The flex plate is not damaged in any way that I know of and the torq converter and harmonic balancer appears to be good,transmission shifts fine.Vibration is in both "Park" and "Neutral" position...I had been told that maybe I need a '76 converter to match up with the engine and use the original flex plate...is this true? Thanks for any input...that vibration has bothered me for at least 5 or 6 years now and one of the main reasons why I haven't drove the car in that time.
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Re: 440 vibration issues...
[Re: 05dakota]
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12/22/11 02:15 PM
12/22/11 02:15 PM
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I'm sure it sounds silly to ask but this means that a '76 440 is not balanced to itself and must be balanced with the factory flex plate and torq converter in place? Or better yet,all externally balanced engines must have a harmonic balancer on the front of the crank and must use the torque converter on the back for balancing?I thought this was only an issue on small blocks and big blocks were not setup that way? Anyone know of a quick fix to the torq converter like on the smallblocks without pulling everything back out or is finding a new converter the best option?
1978 Round Up-1977 Warlock-1977 Powerwagon Adven.-
1976 Blue "Macho"-1974 Charger-1968 Fury III -1966 Newport *
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Re: 440 vibration issues...
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12/22/11 06:07 PM
12/22/11 06:07 PM
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That explains the issue...the only big blocks I have dealt with were all probably '68 or down so I never had the problem before.Thanks everyone for the info,I will check into the flexplate solution. Honestly it's been a while since I dropped the engine into the car so I'm not sure about the converter nose question...I do remember it being one of the more difficult engine swaps overall as far as getting everything lined up just right.If there is a difference in the converter center sizes that would explain that as well.
1978 Round Up-1977 Warlock-1977 Powerwagon Adven.-
1976 Blue "Macho"-1974 Charger-1968 Fury III -1966 Newport *
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Re: 440 vibration issues...
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12/22/11 06:56 PM
12/22/11 06:56 PM
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That explains the issue...the only big blocks I have dealt with were all probably '68 or down so I never had the problem before.Thanks everyone for the info,I will check into the flexplate solution.
Honestly it's been a while since I dropped the engine into the car so I'm not sure about the converter nose question...I do remember it being one of the more difficult engine swaps overall as far as getting everything lined up just right.If there is a difference in the converter center sizes that would explain that as well.
I know the converter snout can be an issue with small blocks , not sure about big blocks .
Buy the B+M flexplate that way you don't have to worry about buying a weighted converter .
The one thing you have to worry about is a spline change on the input shaft of the converter, not sure when that changed, I think it was 68 ?
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