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Weird Moroso anti-roll (line lock) kit question #1130012
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Kind of a weird question. I got a moroso line lock kit and it came with a bracket to mount the button. I have no idea how the mount is supposed to be installed. It's like one of those origami books where the instructions skip major steps or concepts. I will probably end up fabricating something, but I want to get to the bottom of the mystery. Here's some pictures with captions:

here's a picture of the kit. Sorry these are iphone pix of my laptop screen. The arrow cursor is pointing at the mystery bracket. I suspect the clampy part goes on the shifter handle, but then the part with two holes is horizontal and I don't know how the button would interact with it. The solenoid has a sheetmetal bracket already on it and the holes are a different spacing from the aluminum part. The button has a nice shrinkwrapped connection and a piece of phone cord to keep the slack clean if it's mounted on a shifter/steering wheel. The button does not have any mounting provision on it and doesn't seem to fit in any relationhip with the bracket.

here's a picture of the drawing in the instructions. Pretty vague.

here's a shot of the instructions. More vague stuff. See #1 under 'wiring'

I even called moroso and the tech there looked at these instructions with me over the phone. He was baffled as to how the bracket could be used as well. He took my phone# maybe he'll call back I don't know.

Anyway, it's not a problem to make something that'll work, but somebody bothered to design this bracket, have it cast, cleaned up, tapped, and sent along with the kit so it'd be interesting to know what the heck he was thinking.

Re: Weird Moroso anti-roll (line lock) kit question [Re: radar] #1130013
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I dont see a bracket for the button in the pictures


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Re: Weird Moroso anti-roll (line lock) kit question [Re: JAKE68] #1130014
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I dont either?

Re: Weird Moroso anti-roll (line lock) kit question [Re: The Avg. Valiant] #1130015
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What would you say the bracket in the first picture is for then? The one with the cursor/arrow pointing at it in the picture? I'm confused too!

The parts list states: (quoted from moroso website)

Kit contains a heavy duty push button switch, switch bracket, coiled wire, rebuildable line-lock valve, fuse holder, and indicator light
Extruded aluminum shifter handle mounting bracket is far superior to any other in use today

Re: Weird Moroso anti-roll (line lock) kit question [Re: radar] #1130016
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I wouldn't bother with that bracket unless you wanted to mount that switch to something stationary like the dash, roll bar, floor, etc. I certainly would not use that bracket on my shifter handle. That button looks like one used for a trans brake, and not a typical one for a line lock. Those trans brake switches tend to get mounted in the steering wheel on a spoke, hence all the coiled up cord for it. Maybe no one makes the old style line lock switch any more (?)

Re: Weird Moroso anti-roll (line lock) kit question [Re: Sixpak] #1130017
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Thanks and I don't want to sound like a jerk, but what I'm asking isn't where to mount my button it's what the heck is this bracket for and how is it used? Moroso sells one with each kit does EVERYBODY throw it away?


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that braket looks like for the body


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Re: Weird Moroso anti-roll (line lock) kit question [Re: radar] #1130019
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If I can remember ~35 years ago with my Hurst line-loc, the switch was about 1/2" X 2". The red thing looks like the indicator light. Are you sure you aren't missing the switch?

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Re: Weird Moroso anti-roll (line lock) kit question [Re: RADAMX] #1130021
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I have a few of the hurst buttons that slide on the shifter handle if you need one.
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Yeah, it's a mystery! The switch is on the end of the telephone cord in the first pic. I'm going to use that one and probably make something that attaches to the shifter with an arming switch before the momentary. It seems like a pretty nice switch.

I'm still curious though...

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And thanks for the offer I'll keep ya in mind if I screw up this switch.

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Quote:

does EVERYBODY throw it away?






I did. I used a shrink sleeve on the shift lever and it worked fine , but a wide rubber band or electrical tape is a better option that the " bracket " they provide.

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I'm going to make something work probably a shifter mounted button with an arming switch under the dash. I am still a little baffled by the bracket. Here's my best guess mocked up on an extra shifter. Zip ties . You can kind of see the telephone spring coil of wire hanging out of focus.



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Finally got an email reply from moroso. It turns out that the thick shrink-wrap on the button (really thick!) was covering a threaded section with two little bezel nuts and a lock washer. I knew it would be something stupid! The plastic button pops right off and the threaded portion of the button is a perfect fit for the supplied bracket.

I'm not too surprised I couldn't figure it out- the shrink wrap covering the threads/nuts was cut neatly and was so thick it wasn't easy to get off. I couldn't tell there was anything underneath. Here's pictures:

And the switch with the shrink-wrap trimmed down:


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Sorry but there is no way that is what the bracket is for. It'd look better if it was duct taped on there. At least round the edges or something.


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Quote:

I'm going to make something work probably a shifter mounted button with an arming switch under the dash. I am still a little baffled by the bracket. Here's my best guess mocked up on an extra shifter. Zip ties . You can kind of see the telephone spring coil of wire hanging out of focus.








I'll have to say that set-up is probably an "original" creation.
I am sure I have never seen one like it.


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Would this have worked better?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HUU-1530010/


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Re: Weird Moroso anti-roll (line lock) kit question [Re: tboomer] #1130030
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Yes way that's what the bracket is for! The pic with the zip ties is supposed to look wrong, I was not trying to make something that would work, I was showing the strangeness and non compatibility of the supplied parts the way they came. This thread is not about making a good switch location, it is about the formerly mysterious bracket supplied in the kit and touted in the literature.

The phone tech looked at the instructions and didn't know how it worked either. I never saw a momentary button exactly like this one and with the permanant and beefy shrink wrap obscuring the button's mounting bezel it was a mystery how to use the supplied button.

I have a very short shifter both for short throws and so that I have room for my right leg while driving (I'm over 6' tall). I use a pistol grip to get a little more leverage and comfort with the short arm. I am going to make a smal bracket to hold an arming switch and an indicator light for when the lock is active. I haven't decided if I'll use a pistol grip with an integral button- I often palm the top of the handle and I don't want hundreds (thousands?) of unnecesary cycles on the momentary.

I agree it's ugly as all get out and if I use it in the meantime I will be dressing the corners etc. The bracket is designed to take two switches, another reason it was confusing!

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Re: Weird Moroso anti-roll (line lock) kit question [Re: radar] #1130031
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To avoid more confusion- the shifter in the pics is an extra I was using to mock up the bracket for pics and to show how the bracket fits on the shifter

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