Re: Build primer
[Re: elitecustombody]
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12/01/11 06:35 PM
12/01/11 06:35 PM
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RodStRace
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Talked to a painter last night about this, specifically about soft sand. His experience is that it is no better than the primer he likes when sanding, and he's had a couple minor issues with the softsand primer. It's also 3 times the cost. He's going to stick with the stuff he's using due to no issues, the cost is just gravy! Again, any product will have cheers and jeers, this is just his experience. Yours may vary, depending on too many things to list. http://www.autobodytoolmart.com/u-pol-2k-hs-build-primer-31-p-15134.aspx
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Re: Build primer
[Re: RodStRace]
#1124994
12/01/11 09:58 PM
12/01/11 09:58 PM
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elitecustombody
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Talked to a painter last night about this, specifically about soft sand. His experience is that it is no better than the primer he likes when sanding, and he's had a couple minor issues with the softsand primer. It's also 3 times the cost. He's going to stick with the stuff he's using due to no issues, the cost is just gravy! Again, any product will have cheers and jeers, this is just his experience. Yours may vary, depending on too many things to list.
http://www.autobodytoolmart.com/u-pol-2k-hs-build-primer-31-p-15134.aspx
What is soft sand you're talking about?
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Re: Build primer
[Re: beeson44]
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12/02/11 12:49 AM
12/02/11 12:49 AM
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Yep, this stuff does not stick to bare metal,you must use epoxy or etch primer to avoid adhesion problems.As for not drying that one time, you must have overshot some MEKP . I know this because one time I needed to shoot a spot of this primer and wanted it to dry quick, so I squirted a lot more of the hardener than what they recommend,it wouldn't dry ,even with infared light.So after an hour under the light,I scraped it off,mixed a new batch from same container with proper amount of MEKP and what do you know? I was dry within an hour without infared light.
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Re: Build primer
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12/02/11 02:51 AM
12/02/11 02:51 AM
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herkamer
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Currently I'm liking the Mar-Hyde (now 3M) Ultimate 2K primer. It fills well and sands like butter...not too expensive either. Seems to hold out and not shrink hardly at all. I did recently use some of the Clausen All-U-Need, which is pretty much spray bondo, and it really fills well but sands like garbage. It's fine for rough work, and I would never try to use it for a final finish product. Good for a first round of priming and block with 80 or 120 and that's about it. The Ultimate 2K will fill 80 grit scratches with 2 or 3 coats max.
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Re: Build primer
[Re: 68SportSatvert]
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12/03/11 03:30 PM
12/03/11 03:30 PM
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1_WILD_RT
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Using Ditzler NCP 280 on my current project, sprays well, fills well, sands well & I'm told it has virtually no shrinkage... We'll see...
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Re: Build primer
[Re: 1_WILD_RT]
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12/04/11 08:00 AM
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the shop i blast for uses CRE, its a heavy/fill type epoxy primer,,, sands pretty good with 180, and fills pitted areas very well. good for frames, and suspention parts etc,, i used this for the first time on this 37 packard frame,, its nice you can fill/spray up to 3-4 coats, (3:1:1) back to back, on heavily pitted areas, wait till it drys, sand 180, shoot base, chassis coat black, or cut it with zylene (3:1:1.5)to matte the cre down, respray as final coat. Also lacquer will flatten it out, he told me.. i ve got pics somewhere.. i am really happy with results,, the shop uses the slicksand also... i think spray up to 2mm-3mm? if i remember, then block, block..
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