Re: Race carb input/thoughts/suggestions...
[Re: cudadoug]
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11/29/11 10:28 PM
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sjs64polara
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Thanks Andy. The new 950 is one that we are considering. You raise a good question. What DOES the motor need? We are going 128 in the 1/4 at 3100#, but I don't think I've found the optimum tune up. In fact I know I haven't. Added some jet to the carb and gained almost 2 mph with a restrictor plate so now it should go 130 flat out. (??) We're shifting at a 6400, and seeing 7100 in the lights if that helps anyone.
So, 84 lookie-loos but only one reply? I'm surprised that no one wants to brag about their carb or carb builder. Come on guys...school me on what works for you!
I would highly recommend calling Ken Jones. He is an incredible guy. He is a high end alky builder and also builds some great gas carbs. I’ve never met anyone that didn’t disagree……….. Enough said
http://kenjonesperformance.net/
Ken Jones Performance 7030 E Campbell Rd. Walnut Hill IL 62893 618 533 5605
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Re: Race carb input/thoughts/suggestions...
[Re: sjs64polara]
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11/29/11 10:36 PM
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Thanks Andy. The new 950 is one that we are considering. You raise a good question. What DOES the motor need? We are going 128 in the 1/4 at 3100#, but I don't think I've found the optimum tune up. In fact I know I haven't. Added some jet to the carb and gained almost 2 mph with a restrictor plate so now it should go 130 flat out. (??) We're shifting at a 6400, and seeing 7100 in the lights if that helps anyone.
So, 84 lookie-loos but only one reply? I'm surprised that no one wants to brag about their carb or carb builder. Come on guys...school me on what works for you!
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I would highly recommend calling Ken Jones. He is an incredible guy. He is a high end alky builder and also builds some great gas carbs. I’ve never met anyone that didn’t disagree……….. Enough said
is that really what you meant to say?
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Re: Race carb input/thoughts/suggestions...
[Re: Performance Only]
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11/29/11 10:46 PM
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sjs64polara
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Thanks Andy. The new 950 is one that we are considering. You raise a good question. What DOES the motor need? We are going 128 in the 1/4 at 3100#, but I don't think I've found the optimum tune up. In fact I know I haven't. Added some jet to the carb and gained almost 2 mph with a restrictor plate so now it should go 130 flat out. (??) We're shifting at a 6400, and seeing 7100 in the lights if that helps anyone.
So, 84 lookie-loos but only one reply? I'm surprised that no one wants to brag about their carb or carb builder. Come on guys...school me on what works for you!
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I would highly recommend calling Ken Jones. He is an incredible guy. He is a high end alky builder and also builds some great gas carbs. I’ve never met anyone that didn’t disagree……….. Enough said
is that really what you meant to say?
Oh damn…….. You know what I mean. Besides Mandarin, English it’s the hardest language. Its time !
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Re: Race carb input/thoughts/suggestions...
[Re: BradH]
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11/30/11 02:01 PM
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Its been my experience that on a "race" type 416 motor, its pretty near impossible to " overcarb" them. Even on an 11.8 to 1 eddie headed 416 i used to have, the 1050 pro systems dominator i installed on it made better et and mph than a pro systems 750, 1000 and a race demon 1025 rs did( the 1025 rs was mighty close though)
I then took that 1050 dominator and later put it on my 422 w5 motor.
In short, i cant imagine in a race car scenario, not using a dominator over any 4150 type carb out there, its going to make the car faster, imo. I have tried enough different carbs on them to say this quite confidently.
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Re: Race carb input/thoughts/suggestions...
[Re: B3422W5]
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11/30/11 02:16 PM
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Its been my experience that on a "race" type 416 motor, its pretty near impossible to " overcarb" them. Even on an 11.8 to 1 eddie headed 416 i used to have, the 1050 pro systems dominator i installed on it made better et and mph than a pro systems 750, 1000 and a race demon 1025 rs did( the 1025 rs was mighty close though)
I then took that 1050 dominator and later put it on my 422 w5 motor.
In short, i cant imagine in a race car scenario, not using a dominator over any 4150 type carb out there, its going to make the car faster, imo. I have tried enough different carbs on them to say this quite confidently.
Same here.... I'm using a 1050 dom on a 405ci.... if I had a 1150 I would try that on my engine
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Re: Race carb input/thoughts/suggestions...
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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11/30/11 02:51 PM
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I doubt you'll move a ton of air volume through those RHS heads unless you move the pinch over...so with that I'd settle on a 1000HP or the new Ultra 850HP. The new carb has so many great features, this is the carb I would run.
I agree with others though, if you can test a few borrowed carbs AND take the time to tune them at the track (not always possible) then you might be able to make a better educated guess. I've used the 1000HP on many different engine builds as well as the 950HP and IMO you cannot go wrong with them...just that the new carbs have so many upgrades for around 100.00 more it seems worth it to go that route. Good luck with it!! Brian
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Re: Race carb input/thoughts/suggestions...
[Re: rt66jim]
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12/01/11 04:24 PM
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Well my motor is a W2 headed 416. I started out with a 750. Up graded that with a PF base plate. Tried a borrowed 800DP that slowed it down. Borrowed a non HP 950 and it picked up .3 and 3 mph. I now have a PF 950 and it runs the same as the non HP 950 did. A friend has a HP1000 That I hope to try in the future.
It does make a difference in how high you buzz the engine to and what the heads flow... but a good check is to run a vac gauge on the intake to see what the vac is in the intake when you are at WOT... you want very little
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Re: Race carb input/thoughts/suggestions...
[Re: rt66jim]
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12/02/11 12:06 PM
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... Borrowed a non HP 950 and it picked up .3 and 3 mph. I now have a PF 950 and it runs the same as the non HP 950 did...
What is a "non HP 950"?
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