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Why is a turbo 400 better than a 727?
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I see many high horsepower cars using a turbo 400 with lots of luck.
What are the internal workings that allow a 400 to be upgraded and work well.
Where are the weak points in the 727 or 400?
looking at 850-1000hp street strip car.
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Re: WHy is a turbo 4oo better than a 727?
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IF I had a 1000 hp street car ,.. it would have a Lenco in it.
X2, but mine would be the Lenco drive version...If money allows someday, I just might put one in my +700hp street car!
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Re: Why is a turbo 400 better than a 727?
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I think it's because the 400 doesn't have that ticking bomb of a front drum to worry about , also it's cheaper to build one than a 727.
not really.... 
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Re: Why is a turbo 400 better than a 727?
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I think it's because the 400 doesn't have that ticking bomb of a front drum to worry about , also it's cheaper to build one than a 727.
not really....
Not really what , the ticking bomb or the cost ?
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Re: Why is a turbo 400 better than a 727?
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I think it's because the 400 doesn't have that ticking bomb of a front drum to worry about , also it's cheaper to build one than a 727.
not really....
Not really what , the ticking bomb or the cost ?
cost....my 400 was just as much if not more than my CRT built 727...and add the 2 piece converter...over the top...Im selling mine for half of what I have in it and its never been in a car...
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Re: Why is a turbo 400 better than a 727?
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TH 400 can blow up too. It's just that it's a Chevrolet and there are more companies willing to produce good parts for them.
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Re: Why is a turbo 400 better than a 727?
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more power loss with a 400
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Re: Why is a turbo 400 better than a 727?
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A 727 is a TIME BOMB ?
With a aftermarket drum in it .... it is perfectly safe.
 Absolutely safe with steel front drum , lowband apply valvebody and 16 roller sprag 
With all those parts it is , but it's not cheap and most mopar guys are tightwads ...
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Re: Why is a turbo 400 better than a 727?
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A 727 is a TIME BOMB ?
With a aftermarket drum in it .... it is perfectly safe.
Absolutely safe with steel front drum , lowband apply valvebody and 16 roller sprag
With all those parts it is , but it's not cheap and most mopar guys are tightwads ...
So the 400 and the conversion is cheaper?
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
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'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon!
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Re: Why is a turbo 400 better than a 727?
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A 727 is a TIME BOMB ?
With a aftermarket drum in it .... it is perfectly safe.
Absolutely safe with steel front drum , lowband apply valvebody and 16 roller sprag
With all those parts it is , but it's not cheap and most mopar guys are tightwads ...
So the 400 and the conversion is cheaper?
You'll notice I said MOST ... I don't think it would be, but there is something that draws people away from the 727.
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Re: Why is a turbo 400 better than a 727?
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To bullet prof a TH400, your looking at a direct drum with super sprag $680, plus billet input shaft $300, plus all the other normal expense.
Almost forgot about billet intermediate shaft $230. Just as expensive I think...
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1986 T-Type with 272 Stage 2 Buick V6 engine - True 8 second street car. Just updated the engine and put down 928 HP @ 35# boost to the ground on chasis dyno.
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Re: Why is a turbo 400 better than a 727?
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There are a couple of things that make the TH400 "better" especially for drag racing.
When modified with a manual valve body you don't have the shift overlap problems inherent with the Torqueflite design, in the TH400 you just add clutches to upshift...no release/apply overlap.
Also, the "wrap around" case design of the Th400 is stronger than the open bottom design of the TF...less case flex.
As far as the "time bomb" argument...ALL automatic transmissions can explode; that's why NHRA requires diapers/shields on all of them.
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