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Engine Break In #1111494
11/11/11 07:28 PM
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Here’s my situation. I just had my 340 completely rebuilt. When I took it to the Dyno we notice the frost plugs where missing. No big deal we didn’t start the water yet. Installed frost plugs. We started the 15 minute break in. The Dyno guy noticed the oil filter temperature was only at about 80 degrees and not following the engine temp up. After the break in time was up we determined the plug under the 90 degree filter housing was never installed. So during the break in time the filter wasn’t doing much of anything. The oil was bypassing the filter. After we put the plug in the block, the oil filter temp followed the engine temp up.

My concern is the damage that might have been done to the bearings etc. Should I have a third party take a look at the oil filter (for debris), bearings and pan? The engine builder hasn’t gotten back to me yet, not sure if he will.

Re: Engine Break In [Re: dnd0001] #1111495
11/11/11 09:14 PM
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Yes I would cut open the filter/check the bearings and post what you find


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Re: Engine Break In [Re: RapidRobert] #1111496
11/11/11 09:19 PM
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I would clearify any warrantiy with the builder or who ever left the plug out first and foremost.

then you could have the 3rd party that is agreed upon by the first 2 partys to cut open the filter and have a looky see at it and move on to a tear down if need be.

good luck

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Re: Engine Break In [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1111497
11/11/11 10:15 PM
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Scratchn's idea of third party sounds good. Did you happen to have a magnetic drain plug in it? If I had to bet on it I would bet you didn't do any damage.


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Re: Engine Break In [Re: dnd0001] #1111498
11/11/11 11:37 PM
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Didn't you have the oil pressure hooked up when it was on the dyno?

Re: Engine Break In [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #1111499
11/12/11 10:32 AM
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I was thinking the same thing about having a third party look at the bearings as well. I did contact another engine builder and he would look at it in about a week at about $180.00. But, I just heard from the original engine builder and he's willing to look at the bearings. I told him I wanted to be there when it happens. I guess we will start from there. If I'm there I figure I have a better chance and catching anything before anything gets covered up (not to say that would happen but might). He was telling me that filters do have a built in bypass for cold weather starts? Never heard of that? There was good oil pressure during the breaking at about 61 PSI.

Re: Engine Break In [Re: dnd0001] #1111500
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the oil pump has a by-pass plunger and spring for that reason

filters may have an anti-drain back valve but never seen a pressure by-pass on one.

on a good note,it may not have hurt anything,but its a good idea to recheck everything before hand ..just in case

good luck

Re: Engine Break In [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1111501
11/12/11 02:20 PM
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Quote:

the oil pump has a by-pass plunger and spring for that reason

filters may have an anti-drain back valve but never seen a pressure by-pass on one.



Have you cut a oil filter apart? If not do so The spring and steel flap are the internal high pressure by pass, the rubber flapper on the top is the anti drain back


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Re: Engine Break In [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1111502
11/12/11 02:39 PM
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Quote:

....but never seen a pressure by-pass on one.




Most, if not all filters have a by-pass valve.

Re: Engine Break In [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1111503
11/14/11 10:49 PM
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Update. Well the engine was brought back and they pulled off a couple bearing caps. There was some damage to the bearings. He's planning on replacing the bearings. We will see where we go from there.







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