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Car popping at 40-50 mph? What can it be? #1106114
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Ok guys my car is running poorly. It's been this way since my new motor has been in. I always chalked it up to poor tuning however my timing ha been toyed with at length my top end has been taken off and reassemble a few times and I have even put my stealth heads on and still the same issue. One shop said they thought my fuel lines might be the cause claiming that they were kinked. I looked at my fuel lines and they don't look perfect but hardly an issue. Me and my machinist were saying these sounded like maybe my distributer or ignition box was bad from the beginning. Wht do you guys think? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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vacuum leak, fuel pump sucking/delivering air, arcing inside dizzie cap?


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mine does that when it needs a set of points and condencer.

also did it with a vac leak

did it when the timeing was to far advanced till I got a light on it to dial it back in(set by ear..yea right!)

are you sure a wire is not crossed

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How old are the spark plugs? Check that the internal electrode is still intact. Experienced this with my neighbor's tree chipper. He could not figure why it could not start. I checked the spark plug with an ohm meter and found that the electrode inside the porcelain jacket was broken inside. Replaced the plug and got the chipper running again.

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Is this at a lite-cruise .....half throttle ...WOT ? ...

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vacuum leak, fuel pump sucking/delivering air, arcing inside dizzie cap?





I know this is a green question but the vacuum leak is distributer related right? I thought about the fuel pump but wasnt sure that could cause popping. And whats a dizzie cap?

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mine does that when it needs a set of points and condencer.

also did it with a vac leak

did it when the timeing was to far advanced till I got a light on it to dial it back in(set by ear..yea right!)

are you sure a wire is not crossed





Could be a crossed spark plug wire although they did check it a few times. I dont think points are the issue I have an electronic ignition set up. The vac leak seems like serious possibility how can I fix that?

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if the vac pod on dist is ruptured,then yes it could be distributor related.

most vac leaks are carb/intake related. check along intake/heads/carb base with an unlight propane torch while engine idles..if idle goes up you have found the vac leak.

dizzy = distibutor

dizzy cap is the dist cap

bad fuel pump = less fuel = going lean and poping

is it poping in the exhast or back up thru the carb?


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How old are the spark plugs? Check that the internal electrode is still intact. Experienced this with my neighbor's tree chipper. He could not figure why it could not start. I checked the spark plug with an ohm meter and found that the electrode inside the porcelain jacket was broken inside. Replaced the plug and got the chipper running again.





The plugs are new, less than 1k on them. And the car turns over regularly.

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Is this at a lite-cruise .....half throttle ...WOT ? ...





Not even half throttle, I can be barely tapping the gas if I am at that speed level it does that.

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(much) more info: what year/eng/ecu/dizzy /timing (initial/total)/carb floats/jets etc in the ballpark. You said always done it? popping? (a very quick missing/hesitation) out the carb or tailpipe(s)? tapping the gas?? you mean gooseing it a bit? Always does it & how much throttle depression (vac level) would you estimate when it acts up


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(much) more info: what year/eng/ecu/dizzy /timing (initial/total)/carb floats/jets etc in the ballpark. You said always done it? popping? (a very quick missing/hesitation) out the carb or tailpipe(s)? tapping the gas?? you mean gooseing it a bit? Always does it & how much throttle depression (vac level) would you estimate when it acts up





The block is a 69 383 from a charger, I dont know about the internals other than it has a forged crank and the bottom end has less than 2k miles on it. The timing I am not sure of either but I know it has been adjusted numerous times and still pops. And it does hesitate at times but the popping or backfiring is my primary concern, it comes out the tailpipe. When I excel to a certain rpm and my speed is in the cruising range 40-50 mph it backfires when I stop pressing the gas. The more I accelerate the worse it becomes, until it pops as I actually hitting the gas. I dont know what goosing is, and am not sure about the throttle pressure. I am sorry I am not more knowledgeable, I really do wanna learn more I have not been at this that long and in California not many people still have mopar, and they act as if its a totally different car to fix issues like this. Any advice and or info you guys can provide for help I really do appreciate.

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(much) more info: what year/eng/ecu/dizzy /timing (initial/total)/carb floats/jets etc in the ballpark. You said always done it? popping? (a very quick missing/hesitation) out the carb or tailpipe(s)? tapping the gas?? you mean gooseing it a bit? Always does it & how much throttle depression (vac level) would you estimate when it acts up




Just read the one about what a dizzy is its a mopar brand electronic distributer and box. I got them in a kit from summit.

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You're doing great. Goosing it I just meant jabbing the pedal referring back to when you mentioned tapping the pedal. Can you disconnect the line from the dist vac adv canister and plug it with a golf tee (or similar) & retry it (rotor phasing issue) and see if it gets better/worse/same then plug it back in. Can you check that the dist pickup gap is .008" with a brass feeler gauge and on the top of the metal dist housing make a mark on the metal housing perimeter edge where the rounded cap vertical bulge column for #1 plug wire is (if that makes sense) in other words where is the exact clocking of the cap brass terminal then take off the cap and twist the rotor CW & see if the tip of the rotor blade is very close to the mark you made (rotor phasing) EDIT (re)read your post & the box wouldn't happen to be orange would it

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Is this at a lite-cruise .....half throttle ...WOT ? ...





Not even half throttle, I can be barely tapping the gas if I am at that speed level it does that.




So at WOT it is OK ? ... I would say it is way-LEAN ...

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You're doing great. Goosing it I just meant jabbing the pedal referring back to when you mentioned tapping the pedal. Can you disconnect the line from the dist vac adv canister and plug it with a golf tee (or similar) & retry it (rotor phasing issue) and see if it gets better/worse/same then plug it back in. Can you check that the dist pickup gap is .008" with a brass feeler gauge and on the top of the metal dist housing make a mark on the metal housing perimeter edge where the rounded cap vertical bulge column for #1 plug wire is (if that makes sense) in other words where is the exact clocking of the cap brass terminal then take off the cap and twist the rotor CW & see if the tip of the rotor blade is very close to the mark you made (rotor phasing) EDIT (re)read your post & the box wouldn't happen to be orange would it






Ok that sounds like a few hours worth of work. The vacuum advance canister is that metal thing below the distributer cap right? I may have to wait till I get off early or am off to do that stuff (I work alot of hours). And yes I have the orange mopar box, someone told me that one is the wromg one for me.

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Is this at a lite-cruise .....half throttle ...WOT ? ...





Not even half throttle, I can be barely tapping the gas if I am at that speed level it does that.




So at WOT it is OK ? ... I would say it is way-LEAN ...





I am sorry what is WOT? I wasnt sure that why I didnt answer at first.

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The vacuum advance canister is that metal thing below the distributer cap right? And yes I have the orange mopar box, someone told me that one is the wromg one for me.


(1) correct (2) not the wrong part but been an awful lot of comebacks from it. Could you purchase a cheap parts house 4 pin ECU or borrow one from another Mopar (Must be a 4 pin) & you'll know in minutes. I hate throwing parts at a car but this comes up so often (bad orange boxes) and you WILL need a spare on down the line I guarantee. On the potential fuel issue (lean) being the cause I agree with Doc if you floor it does it accel smoothly?


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Oh my bad, nope at wot it hesitates and if I get to certain speed like 55 60 mph it backfires while on the throttle.

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