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Charger leaf springs: zinc interliners question #1101980
10/26/11 04:28 PM
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I'm putting my new leaf springs back together with a rebuild kit that includes new zinc interliners - those thin metal spacers that go between each leaf. These interliners have the mounting hole drilled off-center which creates a long end and a short end. Which way does the long end go, toward the front or toward the back?

Looking at my original springs (which have been altered somewhat) the indication is that the long end went toward the front of the springs where the large bushing is. I don't know if a previous owner modified the interliners (why would he?) but someone did remove the rear straps, apparently for the purpose of more traction in drag racing. Logically it would seem that the long end should go toward the rear since there's more area behind the alignment bolt than in front of it (see pic for example).

I should also add that there are two short interliners that obviously go under the shortest leaf, the one at the bottom of the stack that has the part number. That one I know goes toward the front so assuming the rest follow suit, they should go toward the front too.


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Re: Charger leaf springs: zinc interliners question [Re: bull] #1101981
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Nuthin? Well, don't feel bad. I asked three Mopar restoration guys and two suspension guys and I got 3 saying one thing and two saying the other.


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Re: Charger leaf springs: zinc interliners question [Re: bull] #1101982
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Bull,

I checked the liners on my 68 RR springs and the longer portion is offset toward the front.

Jim

Re: Charger leaf springs: zinc interliners question [Re: 68jim] #1101983
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bull, will a magnet stick to your interleafs because it shouldnt. they look like sheet metal cut out to look like zinc. and yes, long section forward. best,ronnie

Re: Charger leaf springs: zinc interliners question [Re: 1969ronnie] #1101984
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Thanks. That's the direction I was leaning.


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Re: Charger leaf springs: zinc interliners question [Re: bull] #1101985
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Bull, where did you get your rebuild kit from? Im thinking of rebuilding mine instead of buying a new set and would like to know where to get the rebuild kits?

thanks
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Re: Charger leaf springs: zinc interliners question [Re: 1969ronnie] #1101986
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bull, will a magnet stick to your interleafs because it shouldnt. they look like sheet metal cut out to look like zinc. and yes, long section forward. best,ronnie




The cheap rebuild kit I got off ebay had galvanized sheetmetal pieces rather than the correct zinc interliners. I ended up buying the correct zinc interliners from Frank Badalson.

Re: Charger leaf springs: zinc interliners question [Re: Barnabas_Kriss] #1101987
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Turns out I got the cheap stuff too, but doesn't zinc-plated steel still stick to a magnet? Zinc plated nuts and bolt do.

Anyway, I got my kit from Valley Vintage and I would NOT recommend them at all. It was six days before the guy bothered to put the kit in the mail after I made an immediate payment. Of course it was in transit for another five days so 11 days total and now I find out the interliners are apparently junk. Wasted $60+ on those clowns.

Also, only two of the bands I got in the kit work. I don't know how long the rear bands need to be to go around four leaves, but I do know that the 8 3/8" bands don't reach. The other choices are 9" and 9.5".

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Re: Charger leaf springs: zinc interliners question [Re: bull] #1101988
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Not doubting you bull - just pointing out their web site says the interliners are zinc.

V281

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Turns out I got the cheap stuff too, but doesn't zinc-plated steel still stick to a magnet? Zinc plated nuts and bolt do.

Anyway, I got my kit from Valley Vintage and I would NOT recommend them at all. It was six days before the guy bothered to put the kit in the mail after I made an immediate payment. Of course it was in transit for another five days so 11 days total and now I find out the interliners are apparently junk. Wasted $60+ on those clowns.

Also, only two of the bands I got in the kit work. I don't know how long the rear bands need to be to go around four leaves, but I do know that the 8 3/8" bands don't reach. The other choices are 9" and 9.5".




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Re: Charger leaf springs: zinc interliners question [Re: KWF340] #1101989
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hi, is frank the only vendor with the correct zinc interliner kit? anyone know of any other vendors? thanks, ronnie

Re: Charger leaf springs: zinc interliners question [Re: 1969ronnie] #1101990
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hi, is frank the only vendor with the correct zinc interliner kit? anyone know of any other vendors? thanks, ronnie




It sure looks that way. I called another "real" supplier who carries them and he said he gets them from Frank, who I believe actually makes them. Most of these suppliers don't know that much about what they're selling anyway. Sometimes it's better to just make one call to the source rather than trying to save a buck by calling six vendors.


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Re: Charger leaf springs: zinc interliners question [Re: KWF340] #1101991
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Not doubting you bull - just pointing out their web site says the interliners are zinc.

V281





Yes, that's what they say but their interliners are not zinc. They're not lying, they're just saying things that aren't true...


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Re: Charger leaf springs: zinc interliners question [Re: bull] #1101992
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I bought the same kit. The inner leafs are made of 27 gauge galvanized steel sheet metal 0.0202" thick. I'm sure they will rust on the cut edges.

Re: Charger leaf springs: zinc interliners question [Re: rarefish] #1101993
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I'm now thinking of spraying my steel "sheet metal" innerliners with this product.
http://www.kpg-industrial.com/products/zincrich_cold_galvanizing_compound/

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Re: Charger leaf springs: zinc interliners question [Re: bull] #1101994
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Turns out I got the cheap stuff too, but doesn't zinc-plated steel still stick to a magnet? Zinc plated nuts and bolt do.






The zinc interliners are NOT magnetic! Zinc plated steel parts will be magnetic because the magnet easily pulls through a thin plating. Silly question.

Also, if you try to sandblast an original zinc interliner to "clean it up" it will curl-up as soon as the sand hits it. Just buy new ones from Frank.


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Re: Charger leaf springs: zinc interliners question [Re: Sunroofcuda] #1101995
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Just bought the YearOne BH115 leaf spring rebuild kit. Lists for $69.99, but I waited for a 30% off sale and got it for $48.99.

They have a no questions return policy, if you don't like what they send.


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Re: Charger leaf springs: zinc interliners question [Re: kentj340] #1101996
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That's a killer price. Year One is not making ANY on ths kit for that price I can tell you. You'll be using my bands...........


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Re: Charger leaf springs: zinc interliners question [Re: kentj340] #1101997
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Just bought the YearOne BH115 leaf spring rebuild kit. Lists for $69.99, but I waited for a 30% off sale and got it for $48.99.

They have a no questions return policy, if you don't like what they send.




Does this kit have zinc for sure? Or is that why you are referencing the return policy...just in case?


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Re: Charger leaf springs: zinc interliners question [Re: DynoDave] #1101998
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By just looking at the picture on Year One's web site. Those inner leafs look like galvanized sheet metal.

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Year One lists three different kits, but they use the same picture to illustrate for all three. Quite a difference in price between the three.

BH115 $69.99
Leaf spring rebuild kit for all 1968-1974 Chrysler models with small-block V8, 383, and 400 engine.
Kit includes correct metal straps with rubber insulators, plastic interliners and zinc interliners. Kit rebuilds both left and right rear springs.



BH116 $129.99
Leaf spring rebuild kit for 1967-1972 Chrysler B-body models with 440, 440-6 and Hemi engine.
Kit includes correct metal straps with rubber insulators, plastic interliners, zinc interliners.



BH117 $109.99
Leaf spring rebuild kit for 1970-1971 Chrysler E-body models with 440, 440-6 and Hemi engine.
Kit includes correct metal straps with rubber insulators, plastic interliners, zinc interliners.

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