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Rarity? 70 Challenger Burnt Orange/Burnt Orange #1087682
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I recently found this car below. I would usually save it until I did a blog about it. But I don't have the time. What do you guys think about the rarity of such a vehicle? Been sitting in a barn for 25 years he said. It isn't for sale, but I am trying to get information on the car for him.

E61 383-2 Barrel
D32 H-D A-727 TorqueFlite Trans / Some Years A-998

JM23
J = Dodge Challenger
M = Medium

23 = 2 Door Hardtop
L05

L = 383 290HP 1-2BBL 8 CYL
0 = 1970
5 = Los Angeles, CA, USA

FK5
Paint Code: Dark Burnt Orange Metallic
Deep Burnt Orange Iri
H5K4
Trim Grade/Style/Color
H = High
5 = Cloth and Vinyl Bucket Seats
K4 = Burnt Orange
000 Upper Door Frame: Full Door Panel
C22 Date Built: 12 / 22 / 1969
023979 Order Number: 023979
V1X Roof Type OR Color: Full Vinyl Top - Black
A01 Light Package
A62 Rallye Instrument Cluster
B51 Power Assisted Brakes
C16 Console w/ Buckets
C55 Bucket Seats
C62 Left Hand 6-Way Manual Adjustable Bucket
G33 Left Hand Outside Mirror - Manual / Chrome
H51 Single Air /w Heater
L31 Hood / Fender Mount Turn Signal
M21 Roof Drip Rail Moldings
N85 Tachometer
R11 Music Master Radio AM
V5X Black - Mouldings - Protective Insert Body Side
Y05 Built to U.S. Specifactations
28 Unknown At This Time
EN1 End of Codes Assembly Line 1















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Re: Rarity? 70 Challenger Burnt Orange/Burnt Orange [Re: Devil] #1087683
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I'm guessing Barry or Kiss Alien will know the stats on those but not that common I would think. A few years ago, a friend of mine (Chevy guy) went to buy a 465 yamaha & found this in the shop with it. Think he paid $3-4K for it & doubled his money on a sale were it went to Europe. Pretty color combo.


Re: Rarity? 70 Challenger Burnt Orange/Burnt Orange [Re: Devil] #1087684
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JH23
J = Dodge Challenger
H = HIGH

23 = 2 Door Hardtop
L0B or E (first digit of VIN sequence number 1=E or 2=B?)

L = 383 290HP 1-2BBL 8 CYL
0 = 1970
B = Hamtramck, MI or E = Los Angeles, CA, USA

26 = 26" radiator

The vinyl/cloth interior, 6-way, rallye cluster elevate this from your average 383 2bbl non-SE Challenger.

Re: Rarity? 70 Challenger Burnt Orange/Burnt Orange [Re: 6bblgt] #1087685
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5 = Los Angeles, CA, USA




It is actually a B for Hamtramck. The EN1 / EN2 codes are one way to tell, LA used END.

Re: Rarity? 70 Challenger Burnt Orange/Burnt Orange [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1087686
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This one is the second JH23L0 car from Hamtramck that I have heard of so far with FK5 & H5K4.

I am quite sure that this number will go up as more cars are recorded.

Re: Rarity? 70 Challenger Burnt Orange/Burnt Orange [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1087687
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very cool, thank you for the information. I don't intend to tell the guy it is very rare/desirable. He just was wondering how many of these are hanging around.

He also has a 72 Challenger sitting across from it. And a 68 Hemi Charger 4-speed car.

Ryan

Re: Rarity? 70 Challenger Burnt Orange/Burnt Orange [Re: Devil] #1087688
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I've had 4 1970 challengers Bo on BO, and have seen a bit more over the years. Most folks in the 1980's-90's converted alot of the interiors over to black when they got worn or replaced. Nice color, would be a fun builder car.

Re: Rarity? 70 Challenger Burnt Orange/Burnt Orange [Re: migsBIG] #1087689
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I've had 4 1970 challengers Bo on BO, and have seen a bit more over the years. Most folks in the 1980's-90's converted alot of the interiors over to black when they got worn or replaced. Nice color, would be a fun builder car.




Not particularly rare.

And actually seems not that desirable. I don't mind the color but it tends not to excite and even turn people away from a car for sale.

Re: Rarity? 70 Challenger Burnt Orange/Burnt Orange [Re: Devil] #1087690
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I bought one that was a 318 three speed stick car to convert into a six pak clone car, I ended up selling it to a college professor before it was done I did get to finish it and dirve it some, lots of fun, 440 six pak with a 18 spline tranny and dana 60 with 3:54 gears on BF Goodrich darg radials, with the road race rear springs and big torsion bars and sway bars front and rear All of the interior including the door panels where shot, I replace them all with Legendary parts, the car ended up with Hemi orange paint and a Black R/T interior


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Re: Rarity? 70 Challenger Burnt Orange/Burnt Orange [Re: Cab_Burge] #1087691
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It is an odd combination. I am sure the guy will be interested to know that a few exist like it. Not like it is going anywhere anytime soon.

Thanks

Ryan

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When I bought my convertible I wasn't all that excited about the color combination. However, after searching for a nice Challenger convertible off and on for 5 years at that time, I had decided beggers can't be choosers.
Burnt orange has grown on me since then. In addition to the vert, I now have a '71 Challenger in dark autumn bronze which is a similar color. I like my B5 '09 but sort of wish I'd waited for toxic orange!
In the meantime, my F5 red T/A project is hard for me to get excited about as there are so many red Challengers out there. And purple, bright green etc. These colors are starting to get boring to me after seeing so many E bodies painted in these hues. Part of what got me into Mopars was being unique and not following the crowd.
I wish my vert had those cloth seats instead of vinyl!

Re: Rarity? 70 Challenger Burnt Orange/Burnt Orange [Re: autoxcuda] #1087693
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Not particularly rare.

And actually seems not that desirable. I don't mind the color but it tends not to excite and even turn people away from a car for sale.




I agree completely. Though it may be a little unusual, I have seen more than a few and with the 383 2bbl it really isn't all that desireable. Good car to turn in to a restomod or a "day two" street rod.


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Re: Rarity? 70 Challenger Burnt Orange/Burnt Orange [Re: Mastershake340] #1087694
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When I bought my convertible I wasn't all that excited about the color combination. However, after searching for a nice Challenger convertible off and on for 5 years at that time, I had decided beggers can't be choosers.
Burnt orange has grown on me since then. In addition to the vert, I now have a '71 Challenger in dark autumn bronze which is a similar color. I like my B5 '09 but sort of wish I'd waited for toxic orange!
In the meantime, my F5 red T/A project is hard for me to get excited about as there are so many red Challengers out there. And purple, bright green etc. These colors are starting to get boring to me after seeing so many E bodies painted in these hues. Part of what got me into Mopars was being unique and not following the crowd.
I wish my vert had those cloth seats instead of vinyl!




Beggers can't be chosers! The people that hold out for one certain particular car and color scheme tend to overpay and get bad quality cars.

Especially the ones just getting into the hobby. I've seen newbies pass up cars that would fit thier experiance perfectly. But because they wanted a particular model, color, year, etc., they ended up with a messed up money pit that was too much project for thier own good.

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That's true, that is why I built the car I wanted. Frak the numbers! If I ever get a 70 Hemi Cuda body... I'm putting in a 170 /6 with 3-speed manual.

Ryan

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FK5 is my favorite color My 70 A66 is FK5 with black interior. The JH23JOB I've been trying to buy for 30 years is FK5 FK5. I lost track of it 3 years ago, but I found it's new place of residence today....and verified it's there! Since it's one of them "I'm gonna fix it up one day" cars, I gotta try and catch the crackhead (seriously)at the right time to buy it!

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That's true, that is why I built the car I wanted. Frak the numbers! If I ever get a 70 Hemi Cuda body... I'm putting in a 170 /6 with 3-speed manual.

Ryan


I have a one barrel carb for it when you start to build it.
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Re: Rarity? 70 Challenger Burnt Orange/Burnt Orange [Re: denfireguy] #1087698
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That's true, that is why I built the car I wanted. Frak the numbers! If I ever get a 70 Hemi Cuda body... I'm putting in a 170 /6 with 3-speed manual.

Ryan


I have a one barrel carb for it when you start to build it.
Craig




Sounds good to me, I'll keep that in mind.

Re: Rarity? 70 Challenger Burnt Orange/Burnt Orange [Re: Mastershake340] #1087699
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FK5 is one of my favorite colors, and I especially like the orange interior. Personally, I wouldn't let color sway me much one way or another, but I would tend to avoid FC7, FM3, and FJ5.....not a huge fan of FE5, either; any of those colors with a black interior is WAY overdone.



My favorites are EF8, FK5, EB7, EB3, FY4 and EW1.



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Re: Rarity? 70 Challenger Burnt Orange/Burnt Orange [Re: DPelletier] #1087700
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Thanks guys, I am going to meet up with the guy tomorrow and talk about the car. You know I do need a new daily driver Challenger... hum....

Ryan

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I have seen loads of of burnt orange+burnt orange '70 Challengers over the years. It is a very classy looking combo and that is why it sold so well.

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