Re: Negative Battery Cable How much of it should be PAINTED
[Re: TONY_DAGOSTINO]
#1087130
10/12/11 11:25 AM
10/12/11 11:25 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,525 N.E. OHIO, USA
A12
OP
Too Many Posts
|
OP
Too Many Posts
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,525
N.E. OHIO, USA
|
Quote:
another from an A12
but i think the point is clear now, so this is the last pic ill post
Thanks Tony for all of the photos, insight and info you posted, greatly appreciated
MikeR
|
|
|
Re: Negative Battery Cable How much of it should be PAINTED
#1087134
10/24/11 10:47 AM
10/24/11 10:47 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,525 N.E. OHIO, USA
A12
OP
Too Many Posts
|
OP
Too Many Posts
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,525
N.E. OHIO, USA
|
Quote:
The battery cables must be quite the point of interest these days. Here is Tony and Richard Ehrenberg checking out Dave's Challenger battery cable. The next photo is Dave with Steven Juliano, checking out the Diamante battery cable.
So what was the conclusion........
MikeR
|
|
|
Re: Negative Battery Cable How much of it should be PAINTED
[Re: VCODE]
#1087135
10/24/11 01:07 PM
10/24/11 01:07 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,584 SE Pa.
LimeliteAero
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,584
SE Pa.
|
Quote:
#4
I guess we're to take from this picture that the cable ends were masked off? What is the second ground wire? leading down and away from the negative ground lead?
everytime I stop going into this thread I just cant stay away and resist the urge to become more confused.
|
|
|
Re: Negative Battery Cable How much of it should be PAINTED
[Re: Mopar Grandpa]
#1087137
10/24/11 08:31 PM
10/24/11 08:31 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,525 N.E. OHIO, USA
A12
OP
Too Many Posts
|
OP
Too Many Posts
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,525
N.E. OHIO, USA
|
John, my personal opinion from seeing all of these examples, and painting an engine or two and while doing so taking extra care to only paint part of the negative battery cable that the accepted norm of partially painted is not completely correct. It takes a lot more effort to only paint part of the cable then it does to paint it completely. As far as taping or masking the cable clamp end you could almost get away with placing a rolled up piece of paper about the size of a post-it note inside of the terminal hole and keep enough paint off of it to make good contact. I'd still like to know when it was determined that only part of the negative ground cable was painted when it is way more difficult to do it that way. I would hope from now on it can be either or and for sure fully painted negative battery cables did happen and to me this seems more the norm if you have ever painted an engine.......especially being paid by the hour at union scale Some are forgetting that your '69 road runner alone had at the least 82,000+, yes EIGHTY-TWO THOUSAND PLUS 383 big block engines painted with a negative battery cable hanging in the way of getting paint of them. Do you really think they taped or masked the cables so they only got paint on part of the cable MikeR
|
|
|
Re: Negative Battery Cable How much of it should be PAINTED
[Re: Mopar Grandpa]
#1087139
10/26/11 10:17 AM
10/26/11 10:17 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,636 Nashville, TN
MOPARMIKE69
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,636
Nashville, TN
|
Quote:
Mike: I agree with you 100%. However, how does one know how the judging team will respond if they have been told that partially painted cables are the ONLY correct way. I personally think the judges should accept either as the "accepted norm" as it has been proven that they came both ways. And again, was there a "Specific Specification" from the factory? Probably not.
I hope the judging criteria will change next year to reflect the acceptance of the variations from the 60's and 70's so the participants have an opportunity of presenting their cars as they came from the factory, with variations. I think this can happen if they have judges that are truely experienced with MOPARS and not just a general knowledge of some classic cars.
OMG you really are a piece of work. For the last time! NO ONE EVER TOLD the judging team anything regarding painted cable!!!!!!!! AGAIN you say "judges" lumping all of the knowledgable judges with ONE knowledgeable judge who has a certain opinion, based on what he has seen and is on 99% of the cars that have been restored. Don't do it again! You have a beef with ONE judge, don't put all of us in your infantile generalization.
I say it AGAIN for the upteenth time. I nor any other of the judges would count off for an entirely painted battery cable. ONLY ONE GUY DID AND HE CAN DEFEND HIS DECISION BASED ON PLENTY of documentation. There is as I have already posted MANY examples of entirely painted cables and partially painted. Since all of them are different it proves that it was random when they were painted, therefore no points should be deducted for any amount of color. Only lack of color. Same as exhaust manifolds. He said "never" and he should not have said that. There you happy! Go pat yourself on the back, just don't hurt your arm.
You guys act like you just discovered the cure for cancer. All you have done is shown examples of what we already knew. If someone who is restoring a car now paints his cable entirely that's great, if only partial that's great. Paint it the way your car came! If you don not know how your car came AGAIN you are just guessing.
God for a guy who would never ever show again,(from one of your posts) you sure were proud of your Best of Show. Oh but I forgot you don't care about awards.
I am glad you decided to show the Jacobs restored car again why should everyone be denied access to the Jacobs work because you, the caretaker, can't handle the SUBJECTIVE world of car showing. I already posted the magazine article showing that even the BEST in the business once said that all A12 tags were painted, we know they weren't but I didn't take my toys and go home. And I sure as Hell didn't say "that the judges at the Nats do not know Mopars, just a general knowledge of classic cars." You are so far out of your league with a stupid statement like that.
Bring that car back next year and we will give it another best shot at being judged. No wait never mind, since you will "never show again"
I said I would not waste anymore time dealing with you. But you just made some statements that are not true so quit blowin smoke and stick to the facts.
69 Road Runner vert 69 GTX hard top 70 Road Runner 4 speed 70 Hemi Cuda vert
|
|
|
Re: Negative Battery Cable How much of it should be PAINTED
[Re: A12]
#1087140
10/26/11 10:56 AM
10/26/11 10:56 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,636 Nashville, TN
MOPARMIKE69
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,636
Nashville, TN
|
Notice the paint that is missing in the middle of the cable and notice the paint on the manifold
69 Road Runner vert 69 GTX hard top 70 Road Runner 4 speed 70 Hemi Cuda vert
|
|
|
Re: Negative Battery Cable How much of it should be PAINTED
[Re: MOPARMIKE69]
#1087144
10/26/11 01:15 PM
10/26/11 01:15 PM
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
Anonymous
Unregistered
|
Quote:
If you don not know how your car came AGAIN you are just guessing.
......as did the judges.
Every judge should be lumped together because they are all suppose to be experts in what they are doing. Whether it be 1 or 100, their authority should be exactly the same for what they are overseeing. When you put yourself in the position to be an expert then you had better be just that; an Expert. There is no excuse for someone who puts themselves in a position to judge others when they do not know what they are judging. People get fired for obtaining jobs that they are not qualified to perform. They get a position based on false pretenses and slick talk during an interview, only to be exposed as a fraud when the time comes to prove their abilities. Pseudo Judges make excuses and defend their ignorance by deflecting the attention toward the complaining participant. The bottom line is that the original poster was RIGHT. It doesn't matter if getting an award was important to him or if he chooses to ever show his car again. Trying to prove inconsistencies with his attitude does not justify the mistakes that the so called experts made while judging his vehicle.
|
|
|
|
|