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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW.
[Re: CRT]
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09/28/11 12:53 PM
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I am going to through my two cents in this as a vendor and as a racer, and I have no dog in this hunt. As a racer, my tools are your tools, if I have a part in my trailer, its your. A quart of oil or trans fluid, valve cover gasket, its yours. Just this weekend at Indy, Mark’s 65 Coronet broke a output shaft, I had one in the trailer, I gave him the shaft, then I went to his pit spot and rip the trans down and installed the shaft, I missed a 10.0 time run. Now Mark does run my trans, and is a good friend, but I would have done that for anyone. When it comes to helping out a fellow racer, I do what I can, and others have done the same for me. As a vendor, I would have done the same thing. Its better to be a George Bailey than a Mr. Potter.
and for that kind of thinking John, u have a cutomer for ever,rather then charging for the stuff u gave to help out 
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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW.
[Re: joshking440]
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09/28/11 01:39 PM
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julian2007
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Easy, I am only 39 and I have seen that movie 20 times.
God made cold beer,good friends,hot ladies and race cars don't spit in his face by pi$$ing and moaning about how life sucks!!!
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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW.
[Re: fishy340]
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09/28/11 01:40 PM
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JSR1485
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This whole post is a train wreck!
Really ! your going to bash a guy over $5.00 Really!
So this is what this site is becoming -Sandbox fights
Switched to the dark side...
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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW.
[Re: CRT]
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09/28/11 01:55 PM
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Bubba
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I am going to through my two cents in this as a vendor and as a racer, and I have no dog in this hunt. As a racer, my tools are your tools, if I have a part in my trailer, its your. A quart of oil or trans fluid, valve cover gasket, its yours. Just this weekend at Indy, Mark’s 65 Coronet broke a output shaft, I had one in the trailer, I gave him the shaft, then I went to his pit spot and rip the trans down and installed the shaft, I missed a 10.0 time run. Now Mark does run my trans, and is a good friend, but I would have done that for anyone. When it comes to helping out a fellow racer, I do what I can, and others have done the same for me. As a vendor, I would have done the same thing. Its better to be a George Bailey than a Mr. Potter.
There you have it. Cope hit it dead on..
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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW.
[Re: julian2007]
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09/28/11 01:56 PM
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joshking440
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Easy, I am only 39 and I have seen that movie 20 times.
i cant believe your only 39....hahahahahaha
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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW.
[Re: Mopar Grandpa]
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09/28/11 03:07 PM
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I guess I will throw in my I have given away numerous things over the years. I also have been told I don't charge enough to people when I sell parts or labor. I am usually broke to show for it,and can't blame a guy when he charges for a part. To expect someone to give a part just because someone is in need just comes off wrong to me. I am one of the last guys to ever borrow something and would fully plan on having to pay for something I need. I do believe fully in racers helping racers,but sometimes a business has to be run like a business. Keith
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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW.
[Re: julian2007]
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09/28/11 04:41 PM
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being a vendor,and was a racer some time ago...here is my ...first i never understood why a "racer in need" is an excuse to get a part cheap,if not free. your wrong for calling ben out on this one...period. i have delt with him,and he seems like a very nice guy,and tries to help,and make a living also,selling parts.i always try and remember what i have in my trailer when someone announces a racer is broke,and needs XXXX. most all the outfits over there are worth more than my house,let alone the super cool racecars i see. i feel if in need,i sould try to provide as best as i can,but why should i be expected to lose money to help? yes 5.00 MIGHT have been not the exact price autozone would have charged,but it was right next door to your outfit!!! you should say your sorry,for the foolish rant,and all be friends in this sport...its really a small world we live in,[mopar drags,parts,and show]and i would rather go to the track and see friends instead of enemies.just remember it would have been a long weekend in the stands without ben's help..  ..mike...p.s.  really cool challenger!!! 
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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW.
[Re: imfixinmopars426]
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09/28/11 05:11 PM
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I need a 440" SB for my duster,can ya help me out??? Oh yeah,I would need better axles,disc brakes,bigger carb,bigger headers and a roll bar too!!!!
Ive dealt and bought some stuff from Ben a few yrs ago. Everytime I called,he would answer and talk with me about what I need and was VERY helpful!!!! If no one answered,I would leave a message and he would ALWAYS call me back.
Dude....its 5 BUCKS!!!!!!....You could of jumped in your truck,drove 5-20 miles to a junk yard or parts store,give them 10+ bucks and drive back 5-20 miles back to the track and spend a total of 20+ bucks on a part and fuel. Instead,Ben had one for 5 BUCKS and it was on your car in no time.
NO CLASS for calling himout!!!!! Its not like he cheated you or you paid him for a part and he didnt give the part to you. GROW UP!!!!!
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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW.
[Re: MIKES_DUSTER]
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09/28/11 05:53 PM
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Im like CRT.Ive been doing auto repair for over 30 years.Ive given free parts to people at times as well as free labor on small stuff.Lots werent customers either.They just needed something simple.That said Ive also run into the ones that you say check a fuse and give them one free.Next thing they want something else then something else free.Dont get me wrong most are decent.But if I ask a vendor for a part I expect to pay him.If he says here take it then even better but I dont expect it.Just expect a fair price for what I get.5 bucks to me would be dirt cheap to be able to race.Yeah Ive given stuff to people at the track and Ive also been given stuff.But I dont expect it.Rocky
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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW.
[Re: therocks]
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09/28/11 06:07 PM
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Looking thru this whole thread it may be a 50/50 argument on the charge a racer in need issue for a $5 part.... I think this whole deal stems more around the "what's it worth to ya" comment! IMO... Promax has the right to charge for the part! did he go about it wrong with comment and situation at hand YES. even if the whole argument was 50/50 on paper I think that is a HUGE 50/50 to the bad for Promax business wise! This thread will linger in minds/travel for a good while and prolly hurt/lose business for Promax for a $5 part! Just think if Ben would have said he ya go man no charge get your car fixed to get back in the event would have nothing but a positive for him even if the OP didn't make a huge props to promax thread! Bad business travels fast in a small MOPAR community...
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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW.
[Re: cjfordman]
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09/28/11 06:48 PM
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and says, "What's it worth to you"? I say "What?". He says, "Well how much is it worth?". I say "How much do you need?". Five dollars later I got the end.
First of all, from what transpired here I get the impression that you were expecting a freebee dispite the fact that you were in a jam. Personally, if I'm in a jam, money is my last concern.
What I don't understand is why, when he asked "What's it worth to you"? you answered with a dumb question instead of saying "how about two bucks". You're the one to blame for overpaying!
What if Promax hadn't had the item and you'd wandered to the swapmeet to find it. Would you have expected it to be free there?
What if you'd torn up a tire, would you expect THAT for free too? So, where do you draw the line? Ok, some folks are generous and help other racers out. But don't knock the guy who has what you need when you need it and expects reasonable payment for it.
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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW.
[Re: emarine01]
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09/28/11 07:56 PM
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Near 3000 views 80 comments about $5!!!!!!  This forum used to have thousands of folks on and chipping in--it seems like it has been shrinking and may have seen its better days. Yea ...the whats it worth sounds rough but he may have been smiling the whole time --who knows--3000 views about small potatoes if you ask me.
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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW.
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09/28/11 08:27 PM
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Well, might as well throw my in too  If I needed something to get me back on the track and went out in the vendor/swap meet isles looking and found said part I would be happy to pay and offer to pay if someone wanted to give it to me free. Maybe thats me but I dont want to owe anyone and everyone needs some compensation for their stuff. You should be grateful that you found the part and got to keep racing, now if you had won your class and Ben just gave you the part you needed in a "Major" situation would you then have gone to him and said Thanks and offered him some $$ of your winnings? Im wondering if Ben had known you were gonna bash him over $5 if he would have just put the part back in his tool box. By the way I have never bought anything from Ben but have talked with him on some parts and he seems like a decent person.
416 stroker from Nick at Compu-flow. 11.14 in full street trim. Seems like a new best every time out.
11.06 open headers----so far!!
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Re: My rant about Promax at MMW.
[Re: G-Money1320]
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09/28/11 08:50 PM
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Well, might as well throw my in too If I needed something to get me back on the track and went out in the vendor/swap meet isles looking and found said part I would be happy to pay and offer to pay if someone wanted to give it to me free. Maybe thats me but I dont want to owe anyone and everyone needs some compensation for their stuff. You should be grateful that you found the part and got to keep racing, now if you had won your class and Ben just gave you the part you needed in a "Major" situation would you then have gone to him and said Thanks and offered him some $$ of your winnings? Im wondering if Ben had known you were gonna bash him over $5 if he would have just put the part back in his tool box. By the way I have never bought anything from Ben but have talked with him on some parts and he seems like a decent person.
Greg, I had a guy help me with a tranny change once,several years ago and he still comes around looking for food at my trailer!! I guess I should have paid him! ha ha I would not have it any other way! ps did you let Donna out of the basement yet? Big Dog 
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about a vendor charging you for a part you needed.
And all I can say is.... 
