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My 63 vs 69 bigblock Camaro ? #1081052
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A buddy of mine had a shop put a very built 468 eng in his 69 Camaro looking to go 10's. He has not raced it yet and the fastest car he has ever raced ran mid 13's. It has a roller cam and aluminum heads with the normal goodies and 4.10 gears. Has a 5-speed also which is a plus for me because he cant drive the stick very good at the track.
Course my car is a 493 which is the 440 block and 4.15 crank with Indy EZ heads and a solid flat tappet cam. I feel very sure my car will go at least 10.80's as I had problems last time out and still ran 11.0's. It was very lean but I have jetted up now. I plan to go again on Oct 8th and am trying to get him to go. Last time I went he said he was sick ! I hope he is not one of these guys who run their mouth but never show up. I really think that even if his car could run 10.50's it would be lucky to go 11.50's with him driving. It seems to be pretty fast and I would guess it should run in the low 11's or high 10's with a good driver. Well I hope to know after Oct the 8th. Ron


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Re: My 63 vs 69 bigblock Camaro ? [Re: 383man] #1081053
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Good luck! I know what car I am rooting for. Just hope he doesn't come on here and call you out! Lol.


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Re: My 63 vs 69 bigblock Camaro ? [Re: OhioMopar] #1081054
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Good luck! I know what car I am rooting for. Just hope he doesn't come on here and call you out! Lol.




Na its all in fun anyway. He's an alright guy just likes the wrong kind of cars. Ron

Also forgot to mention the body is stock as it looks like a stock 69 Camaro with widened rally wheels on the back and the cool Camaro hood with the chrome louvers. Its Dark green and is a very good looking car. Also he uses a 950 HP Holley carb with a dual plane intake that says ....Martin..... I believe.

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Re: My 63 vs 69 bigblock Camaro ? [Re: 383man] #1081055
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That's cool. I have a good time ribbing buddies with poor taste in vehicles. The problem is I don't have anything to prove I like the superior product, so I don't really talk too much smack. Lol. Soon, though...


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Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
Re: My 63 vs 69 bigblock Camaro ? [Re: OhioMopar] #1081056
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BTW, my uncle drove a '63 Plymouth wagon for YEARS. I have had a fascination with that grill and body ever since. Love your ride.
Sometimes looking at something for years will, especially when you are very young, can make that car stick with you forever! Which is why I love '66 Coronets and tons of people don't. (My dad has a '66 Net ragtop. Bought it before there was a me)
Sorry for the off topic yapping!


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Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
Re: My 63 vs 69 bigblock Camaro ? [Re: OhioMopar] #1081057
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Should be a good race. Back in mid 90's my buddy had a 70 1/2 camero with a 468, roller cam, auto with 4:11 rear. It was a street car that ran low 11's thru the exhaust.

Re: My 63 vs 69 bigblock Camaro ? [Re: OhioMopar] #1081058
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How's his chassis???

Those cars have an absolutely terrible factory leaf spring arrangement without GOOD traction bars.

Your car has proven track times. I think you will spank him.


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Re: My 63 vs 69 bigblock Camaro ? [Re: 383man] #1081059
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Ron, make sure you ave enough fuel supply, big motors like lots of fuel Make sure it doesn't lay over in the last three hundred feet (high gear)


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Re: My 63 vs 69 bigblock Camaro ? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1081060
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I have faith in you, Ron. I think you'll take him, especially if he's not too good w/ a manual trans.


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Re: My 63 vs 69 bigblock Camaro ? [Re: I_bleed_MOPAR] #1081061
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Newbie with a stick... give him an old school lesson


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Re: My 63 vs 69 bigblock Camaro ? [Re: Bigcube] #1081062
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Tell him if he wants a driver send me a round trip ticket and I'll come up there and do my best to spank you. I'll drive anything, I'm just a ho

Love your car though, I had a 63 years ago.


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Re: My 63 vs 69 bigblock Camaro ? [Re: Guitar Jones] #1081063
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Ron, it's likely the Camaro will have traction issues; they had about 45% of their weight in back. A buddy of mine had a fairly healthy 427 & 4-speed in a '67 Camaro, and traction was hopeless until 3rd on big street tires. Also, some guys just can't powershift a 5-speed, even though they might be OK on a 4-speed. If you have your car running strong all the way downtrack, he shouldn't be able to come around you. I doubt his car is much lighter than yours. Go get him! October 8th is my birthday, gimme a win for a present!

Re: My 63 vs 69 bigblock Camaro ? [Re: topside] #1081064
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Thanks all. Not knocking the guy but I was in his other 13 second Mustang when he did his shifting and believe me he dont know how to launch a stick car and I dont think he knows what power shifting is. I just dont think he can drive the car to its capabilities. Plus he has no frame connectors or rollbar which I told him to put a minimum of a 6 point rollbar in it. And I lent him a pair of my 28 x 9 slicks. As long as my car runs fine I should see easy high 10's which I think should cover him. He already knows I went 11.0's with problems so maybe he is having second thoughts. But it is all in fun as thats what makes this hobby so cool. Ron

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Ron, make sure you ave enough fuel supply, big motors like lots of fuel Make sure it doesn't lay over in the last three hundred feet (high gear)





I am upgrading my electric pump to be sure. Ron

Re: My 63 vs 69 bigblock Camaro ? [Re: 383man] #1081066
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The combination of the lack of a decent chassis plus the other guys inexperience should make it a cakewalk. Don't spank him too hard, that way when he asks for a re-match you can reel him in.

Re: My 63 vs 69 bigblock Camaro ? [Re: Sixpak] #1081067
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Put a small kit on your car just in case!

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E.T's .... You will win eating your sandwich at the same time. He may match your mph though (HP).

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hey Ron, I know he wont be going to the track on Oct 8th he will be in Ocean city getting his butt beat by me Lol.

Ron great job on the new motor.

Bill

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hey Ron, I know he wont be going to the track on Oct 8th he will be in Ocean city getting his butt beat by me Lol.

Ron great job on the new motor.

Bill




Ya know Bill I forgot about that. You may be right. Well I will still be going to the track with or without him weather permitting.
Hows that Coronet running Bill ?? Ron

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Thanks all. Not knocking the guy but I was in his other 13 second Mustang when he did his shifting and believe me he dont know how to launch a stick car and I dont think he knows what power shifting is. I just dont think he can drive the car to its capabilities. Plus he has no frame connectors or rollbar which I told him to put a minimum of a 6 point rollbar in it. And I lent him a pair of my 28 x 9 slicks. As long as my car runs fine I should see easy high 10's which I think should cover him. He already knows I went 11.0's with problems so maybe he is having second thoughts. But it is all in fun as thats what makes this hobby so cool. Ron




hope you do well Ron..

how healthy is that 468 he has...

I'll run him against my Camaro if I lived closer..LOL

and mines a SB w/4spd...

sounds like good fun..I use to get that stuff from my friends all the time about who's car is quicker and such...till I gave them a ride..stopped that noise...

perhaps next year I'll have my 63 Dodge ready for the streets...have fun...

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