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Any street/strip guys track their oil temperature? #1075504 09/15/11 02:04 PM 09/15/11 02:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH OP Taking time off to work on my car
BradH OP Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Not the pressure, the actual oil temperature. I can't say where my Challenger's was before, but will in the future as I'm adding an oil temp gauge. I do know where my WRX's is and it can range quite a bit depending upon ambient temp, being stuck in traffic driving to/from work, etc. So, what do you see for oil temps on the street during normal operating vs. at the track after a pass?

Re: Any street/strip guys track their oil temperature? [Re: BradH] #1075505 09/15/11 02:18 PM 09/15/11 02:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,995 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,995 Oregon	I added a temp gauge to my Coronet a few years back. It was interesting to see just how long it takes for the oil to warm up. Running the engine for a little while doesn't do anything for the oil temp, the car actually has to be driven on the freeway for about 10 miles before the oil is up to temp. We watch the oil temp on the dyno really closely and once again, it takes a long time for the oil to heat up. I added a heater to the dry sump tank to try and keep the oil temp up between runs but even the heater doesn't get the job done. I now need to go back and add insulation and maybe another heater.

Re: Any street/strip guys track their oil temperature? [Re: BradH] #1075506 09/15/11 03:04 PM 09/15/11 03:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,923 NC 440Jim I Live Here
440Jim I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,923 NC	I can only offer my oil temps (sensor in the oil pan) from race only (trailer to/from the track). 130-150 F normal. It is hard to get it above that. My car doesn't see high water temps (which warms the oil), stage at 160-170 water, back to the pits 170. So it takes round robin racing to get the oil past 150, and even then not much. I recall a recent racing post on this on DRR.com bracket talk. http://drr.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/80760912/m/1577011706 1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1

Re: Any street/strip guys track their oil temperature? [Re: 440Jim] #1075507 09/15/11 03:38 PM 09/15/11 03:38 PM
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Jeepmon master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA	I've thought about putting in an oil temp gauge in my street driven Duster, but realized the oil pressure gauge is also a temp gauge.. When the oil pressure is 60-80 psi at idle, the oil temp is low.. as it heats up, the pressure will drop to 30 psi at idle.. Its then time to go racing.. 73 Duster 360 stroker http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2594657

Re: Any street/strip guys track their oil temperature? [Re: Jeepmon] #1075508 09/16/11 03:25 PM 09/16/11 03:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH OP Taking time off to work on my car
BradH OP Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Quote: ... the oil pressure gauge is also a temp gauge. Ummmm... yes... and no. In that scenario, it's really more of a "Go / No Go" gauge. I'm interested in knowing actual temp reading under different operating conditions. One of the other things I posted recently was questioning how people determine the proper oil viscosity to run; oil temps & bearing clearance were a couple of the factors that came up; I only know the bearing clearance at this point.

Re: Any street/strip guys track their oil temperature? [Re: BradH] #1075509 09/16/11 04:27 PM 09/16/11 04:27 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation dOc ! The village idiot's idiot
dOc ! The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation	I have had a oil-temp gauge on my 62 ...almost since day-one when I put the deep pan on it. It has always been an interesting # to keep track of. INDEED .. it takes quite-a-while for the oil to get up-to-temp ...and from my observations the temp normally ran 5-10 degrees cooler than water temp. I will DEFINATELY run one of these on my RV project. And I would suspect that THIS combo might run up-to 20 degrees hotter than water-temp in a heavy towing situation.

Re: Any street/strip guys track their oil temperature? [Re: dOc !] #1075510 09/16/11 07:22 PM 09/16/11 07:22 PM
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Triple Threat master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington	I have a trans Temp gauge, I've tossed around the idea of hooking another sending unit to it to monitor oil temps as well. -Dustin 67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi 68 Barracuda 340 F/SA

Re: Any street/strip guys track their oil temperature? [Re: BradH] #1075511 09/16/11 07:32 PM 09/16/11 07:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,995 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,995 Oregon	I was told by the guys at RedLine that the oil should be at 210 degrees going into the engine. It is really hard to get oil that hot unless you're driving a lot. Even with a heater in the tank we rarely are able to get the oil hotter than 200 degrees on the dyno. On my street car the oil will get to 210 after about 20 miles on the freeway on a nice summer day. I've never driven a rig thru the mountains with an oil temp gauge, that might be interesting. I know that circle track cars kill the oil temp after a few laps. Some of those cars run close to 300 degrees even with a cooler. We need to put a oil temp gauge in Tim's road race Valiant to see what it does. I'm not sure how hot it gets but I bet it gets warm after a few laps.

Re: Any street/strip guys track their oil temperature? [Re: 440Jim] #1075512 09/16/11 11:55 PM 09/16/11 11:55 PM
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Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Quote: I can only offer my oil temps (sensor in the oil pan) from race only (trailer to/from the track). 130-150 F normal. It is hard to get it above that. My car doesn't see high water temps (which warms the oil), stage at 160-170 water, back to the pits 170. So it takes round robin racing to get the oil past 150, and even then not much. I recall a recent racing post on this on DRR.com bracket talk. http://drr.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/80760912/m/1577011706 Drag race oil temps will be below our typical water temps in most typical drag race cars such as ours. The race is short, the water heats up fast, because of its wider exposed surface areas. The oil path has a ton less exposed surface area, so it gets heated at a lessor rate.

Re: Any street/strip guys track their oil temperature? [Re: BradH] #1075513 09/17/11 01:19 AM 09/17/11 01:19 AM
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Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,127 Bend,OR USA	My oil temp sender is in the rear of the block(400/440 blocks) in the crossover passage so it may end up being influence by the block temps As already said it takes quite a while, even with 5W20 WT dino oil, for the oil temps to catch up with the coolant temps, it also cools down a lot faster than the coolant when shut off. My oil temps will come close to the coolant temps here in central Oregon in the summers when driving it slow in traffic, I have seen 180 to 215 F oil temps when the coolant temps. where close to that I run a six quart stock steel 1970/71 street Hemi pan, it does not stick down under the K member so it is not getting a lot of air flow aroud it at speeds or idling Solid roller cam and lifters real loose(.0035+) rod and main bearing clearances along with .002+ lifter to lifter galley clearances IHTHs Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Any street/strip guys track their oil temperature? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1075514 09/17/11 01:28 AM 09/17/11 01:28 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,361 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,361 Las Vegas	We have one in the Camaro. The highest I have ever seen it was 235-240 during extended street driving. Water temp rarely gets over 180-190. After extended periods of driving, like on the highway and then hitting stop and go traffic is when the oil has seen 240ish. Normally it is in the 210-220 range. The reason we have one is the block is partially filled and were concerned about oil temps. At this point it rarely gets looked at. I also have an oil cooler on it and going down the road it is usually 10-15 degrees above the coolant temp once warmed up. "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: Any street/strip guys track their oil temperature? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1075515 09/17/11 09:32 AM 09/17/11 09:32 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH OP Taking time off to work on my car
BradH OP Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Quote: My oil temp sender is in the rear of the block(400/440 blocks) in the crossover passage... Do you mean in one of the two 1/8" NPT passages on the back of the block where the factory oil pressure sending unit also goes? I was debating that location vs. in the oil pan itself for different reasons.

Re: Any street/strip guys track their oil temperature? [Re: BradH] #1075516 09/17/11 10:38 AM 09/17/11 10:38 AM
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Streetwize master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,872 Weddington, N.C.	I have one in my 427SC Cobra(427W Stroker Small Block) with a sending unit screwed right into the (canton Road race) sump. ....generally the oil is going t obe about 20 degrees hotter than the coolant and the coolant stays in the 170 to 190 ish range most of the time. What you'll notice is that in traffic my coolant temp will go up but come back down on the open road. However with oil, once it gets hot(ter) it will tend to stay on the higher side but never more than 230. WIZE World's Quickest Diahatsu Rocky (??) 414" Stroker Small block Mopar Powered. 10.84 @ 123...and gettin' quicker! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWzLma3YGI In Car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0

Re: Any street/strip guys track their oil temperature? [Re: BradH] #1075517 09/17/11 11:18 AM 09/17/11 11:18 AM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: My oil temp sender is in the rear of the block(400/440 blocks) in the crossover passage... Do you mean in one of the two 1/8" NPT passages on the back of the block where the factory oil pressure sending unit also goes? I was debating that location vs. in the oil pan itself for different reasons. You dont want to take a reading from the sending unit area... that area doesnt flow(you want it in the pan or in a area that flows)

Re: Any street/strip guys track their oil temperature? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1075518 09/17/11 02:04 PM 09/17/11 02:04 PM
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Pat7272 super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 945 La Vernia, Texas	I know it depends on which oil is in the engine and many other factors - but what is considered too hot in a street/strip car on the street generally?

Re: Any street/strip guys track their oil temperature? [Re: BradH] #1075519 09/18/11 01:27 AM 09/18/11 01:27 AM
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Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,127 Bend,OR USA	Quote: Quote: My oil temp sender is in the rear of the block(400/440 blocks) in the crossover passage... Do you mean in one of the two 1/8" NPT passages on the back of the block where the factory oil pressure sending unit also goes? Yes I think the next motor will have the sender in the oil passage in the oil pump on the side that flows oil back into the main oil galley, that or in the remote filter mount itself Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Any street/strip guys track their oil temperature? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1075520 09/18/11 12:37 PM 09/18/11 12:37 PM
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WheelsUp73 enthusiast W Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 369 California, USA!!!	We heated the oil to 150 before each run in our Comp Eliminator A/D. http://youtu.be/fAP_2rxz_GA

Re: Any street/strip guys track their oil temperature? [Re: WheelsUp73] #1075521 09/18/11 12:43 PM 09/18/11 12:43 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation dOc ! The village idiot's idiot
dOc ! The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation	Pat Goss on MotorWeek had a interesting article on yesterdays program on PBS. In order to boil-off the water that is put-into the oll during the cold-start process .... the oil temp must get over 212 degrees for a period of time.

Re: Any street/strip guys track their oil temperature? [Re: dOc !] #1075522 09/18/11 09:40 PM 09/18/11 09:40 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,127 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,127 Bend,OR USA	My airplane oil cooler had a 190 F thermostat, the oil ran 190 to 195 F all the time,within 5 minutes after start up. That help keep the moisture out as long as the flight was 20 minutes or more I did one warm up flight for under 20 minutes to change the oil and filter, the oil analyse test came back with high moisture conent I never changed the oil with less than 20 minutes of flying time to warm it up after that, never had high moisture content again after that either Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

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