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Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1062480
08/31/11 07:34 PM
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I'm curious to what was making the little (we will
call them ball bearing marks) in the heads and or cyl...
you tried 2 ignition set ups didnt you... so your down
to fuel... if it was bad fuel it would detonate and
could leave marks... plus run BAD... how old was the fuel




Hello, After I removed the heads, I found it was not dimples as we thought. We were looking in the cyls with a bore scope. I think we were seeing reflections off of the gooy stuff on the piston tops. Looked like a mixture of oil / gas goo. Wiped right off, piston looked like new. I have the engine all apart, and see nothing! No marks anywhere indicating anything hitting. Yes, I tried 2 ignition systems, no difference. Initial start was with the fuel in my tank. The tank was almost empty, so I put in 10 gals of 93 octane before I started the engine. Later, I hooked a hose directly to a 5 gal can of 110...NO difference. UNLESS, I washed the cyls down right from the get-go and caused my problems. Still hunting. Waiting now for the tech from 440Source to call me back. Thanks, Jeff

Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: 1969RR] #1062481
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So are you somewhat carb savvy? I ask this because all along I kept thinking you had a stuck float or a dirty/worn or sticky needle & seat and wondered if you could tell the difference? I can't tell you how many times people I know who are very smart sometimes overlook the simplest things. Then when you mention the "grey goo of death" I really think you washed and wiped the rings.


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Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: Get-X] #1062482
08/31/11 09:43 PM
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Could the rings be installed upside down causing a compression loss ?

Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: RalleyA12] #1062483
08/31/11 10:23 PM
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Could the rings be installed upside down causing a compression loss ?



Nope, checked that too...Thought that myself. Jeff

Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: 1969RR] #1062484
08/31/11 11:41 PM
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[quote Waiting now for the tech from 440Source to call me back.






Sorry, I just had to....


Did the motor show any signs of excessive blowby?


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Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: 1969RR] #1062485
09/01/11 12:51 AM
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Hello all! I've So, I take it out for a test drive..NO power at all. I doubt if it would burn rubber! Seems like a slight miss out at light cruise.
I have taken out plugs. Might be a bit rich, Looked in chamber with a Snap-On bore scope, adjusted rockers ICE-EOI method 3 times Jeff




After reading all of your posts! IMO This is a bogus type thread You state above, you doubt if it will burn the tires


The combo as listed should rock. I think your mocking Moparts.

Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: Von] #1062486
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[quote Waiting now for the tech from 440Source to call me back.






Sorry, I just had to....


Did the motor show any signs of excessive blowby?




Thurs morn......and, I'm still waiting! LOL.. Maybe they'll call today, ya think?? Yes, I did have some..I could feel slight "puff" out of the valve cover breather ports. Jeff

Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: Sport440] #1062487
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Hello all! I've So, I take it out for a test drive..NO power at all. I doubt if it would burn rubber! Seems like a slight miss out at light cruise.
I have taken out plugs. Might be a bit rich, Looked in chamber with a Snap-On bore scope, adjusted rockers ICE-EOI method 3 times Jeff




After reading all of your posts! IMO This is a bogus type thread You state above, you doubt if it will burn the tires


The combo as listed should rock. I think your mocking Moparts.




DO WHAT? Not mocking anything, just seeking advise! Jeff

Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: 1969RR] #1062488
09/01/11 09:45 AM
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Waiting now for the tech from 440Source to call me back.






Sorry, I just had to....


Did the motor show any signs of excessive blowby?




Thurs morn......and, I'm still waiting! LOL.. Maybe they'll call today, ya think?? Yes, I did have some..I could feel slight "puff" out of the valve cover breather ports. Jeff




Well it was only 4am ish there , what are you expecting to get out of a conversation with them ??


Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: 1969RR] #1062489
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Just a thought, blocked exhaust will cause the same problem. Old double wrapped pipes would sometimes buckle on the inside and not be visible on the outside - try running w/o exhaust if you had one on for your street test


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Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: JohnRR] #1062490
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Well it was only 4am ish there , what are you expecting to get out of a conversation with them ??





I talked to them initially at about 3 PM THEIR time, they were going to call back last night...not at 4 AM this morning. Thanks, Jeff

Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: 1969RR] #1062491
09/01/11 11:35 AM
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Was a leak down and/or a compression test done before the engine was disassembled ?A leak down test would sure help with a direction to go,be it rings,valves or gasket issues.Leaking rings may not look bad to the eye.

Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: RTSrunner] #1062492
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Was a leak down and/or a compression test done before the engine was disassembled ?A leak down test would sure help with a direction to go,be it rings,valves or gasket issues.Leaking rings may not look bad to the eye.




he did a compression test , think it read 155psi ?

Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: 1969RR] #1062493
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Sorry about my post there 69R. I was on a early bender and the heat got to me I guess. Id erase it but you already captured it. So I'll leave it stand. mike

Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: Sport440] #1062494
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Looks to me like you just don't know what your doing. Either pay someone or sell it. Your over your head.

Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: FastmOp] #1062495
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People learn more by making mistakes than they do otherwise. The poor guy is having enough issues without people giving him a hard time. He wants to learn what is wrong,and that is not a bad thing.
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Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1062496
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I need some pics or something. Show the car and a motor apart shot. Then I'll Help. I want bearing pics, cam pics, inside of intake, and plug shots.

I bet it's something simple.

Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: Sport440] #1062497
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Sorry about my post there 69R. I was on a early bender and the heat got to me I guess. Id erase it but you already captured it. So I'll leave it stand. mike




I hate when i do that


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Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: FastmOp] #1062498
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Looks to me like you just don't know what your doing. Either pay someone or sell it. Your over your head.





Fastmop! Is your name Dick?

Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power! [Re: viperblue72] #1062499
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I guess so.

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