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Muscle Motors 900 HP Pump Gas Crate Motor! #106208 08/16/08 10:52 PM 08/16/08 10:52 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 554 Florida 65HemiCoronet OP mopar
65HemiCoronet OP mopar Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 554 Florida	I just got my new issue of Mopar Collector's Guide, and there's a big article in it about Mike Ware's new monster motor. 622 cube wedge, nearly 900 HP at 6000 rpm, and 800 ft lb tq at 3,700 rpm (873 peak at 4,500). On pump gas. Wow. Yeah, it's got a hemi........a REAL hemi.

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Re: Muscle Motors 900 HP Pump Gas Crate Motor! #106210 08/16/08 11:08 PM 08/16/08 11:08 PM
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65HemiCoronet OP mopar Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 554 Florida	Yes Fred, I know, I saw that thread. And how much money does Darren have in his motor? Not everyone has yours or Darren's tallent to wrench on a motor to get something out of this world like that, or Jimmy's blower motor. I just think it's pretty neat that Mike has put together a neat combo that seems to work very well. Yeah, it's got a hemi........a REAL hemi.

Re: Muscle Motors 900 HP Pump Gas Crate Motor! #106211 08/16/08 11:09 PM 08/16/08 11:09 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,097 back in Georgia dthemi master
dthemi master Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,097 back in Georgia	We made 1030 with a pump gas 572 hemi as well.

Re: Muscle Motors 900 HP Pump Gas Crate Motor! [Re: dthemi] #106212 08/16/08 11:17 PM 08/16/08 11:17 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	One thing ya gotta REmember Ya gotta Hook it up, what about Muscles 511 low beck Hdraulic drive it every day 625 hp short block.

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Re: Muscle Motors 900 HP Pump Gas Crate Motor! #106214 08/16/08 11:23 PM 08/16/08 11:23 PM
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Defbob master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,619 Norwich CT USA	the crate motor is only $15K

Re: Muscle Motors 900 HP Pump Gas Crate Motor! [Re: Defbob] #106215 08/16/08 11:30 PM 08/16/08 11:30 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,097 back in Georgia dthemi master
dthemi master Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,097 back in Georgia	That would be a heck of a deal for 622 inches. Given what components cost I can't imagine how you would make a profit selling them for that. If he can sell them for that hats off to those guys!

Re: Muscle Motors 900 HP Pump Gas Crate Motor! [Re: dthemi] #106216 08/16/08 11:34 PM 08/16/08 11:34 PM
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Defbob master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,619 Norwich CT USA	the price of the top end (B1 heads) and the block, crank, rods, pistons. Their is most of the motor's cost worth in parts. And I don't think eagle or K1 make 4.75" cranks....

Re: Muscle Motors 900 HP Pump Gas Crate Motor! [Re: dthemi] #106217 08/16/08 11:35 PM 08/16/08 11:35 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Id let Mike at Muscle Motors build me one over nearly anyone on this board. Great guys and make very durable engines. Always done me right....

Re: Muscle Motors 900 HP Pump Gas Crate Motor! [Re: 65HemiCoronet] #106218 08/17/08 12:19 AM 08/17/08 12:19 AM
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blownEFI pro stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,417 Chicago, IL	Quote: Yes Fred, I know, I saw that thread. And how much money does Darren have in his motor? Not everyone has yours or Darren's tallent to wrench on a motor to get something out of this world like that, or Jimmy's blower motor. I just think it's pretty neat that Mike has put together a neat combo that seems to work very well. Apples and oranges. Both are very impressive in different ways and I don't think anyone questions either of those builders ability or reputation, just different engines built for different purposes. "These go to eleven", Nigel Tufnel

Re: Muscle Motors 900 HP Pump Gas Crate Motor! [Re: blownEFI] #106219 08/17/08 12:28 AM 08/17/08 12:28 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,890 North Alabama M Monte_Smith master
Monte_Smith master M Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,890 North Alabama	Both motors are very impressive guys, but serve totally different purposes. DTs motor is a purpose built, high compression HEMI, with some pretty exotic parts. Mike's motor, billed as a "crate motor" is much more mainstream. Both make impressive power for their intended purposes. Monte

Re: Muscle Motors 900 HP Pump Gas Crate Motor! [Re: Monte_Smith] #106220 08/17/08 09:21 AM 08/17/08 09:21 AM
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dthemi master Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,097 back in Georgia	I hope that deal works out for them, it would be great to see the national dragster filled with mopar crates ads one day, instead of what it is now. Yeah, I couldn't sell my short block for 15 let alone a whole motor with I'm sure a warranty. Operating costs, advertising, labor ect. Don't know how he's going to do it,, but I think it's wonderful someone (other than Indy) is getting in the game. They've got a great reputation so they should have plenty of customers.

Re: Muscle Motors 900 HP Pump Gas Crate Motor! [Re: dthemi] #106221 08/17/08 11:13 AM 08/17/08 11:13 AM
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65HemiCoronet OP mopar Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 554 Florida	Quote: I hope that deal works out for them, it would be great to see the national dragster filled with mopar crates ads one day, instead of what it is now. Yeah, I couldn't sell my short block for 15 let alone a whole motor with I'm sure a warranty. Operating costs, advertising, labor ect. Don't know how he's going to do it,, but I think it's wonderful someone (other than Indy) is getting in the game. They've got a great reputation so they should have plenty of customers. Thanks Darren, all I wanted to do was get the news out there about Mike's new motor. I believe there are a bunch of guys that look up to the ones on the site that have the experience, knowledge, talent, and expertise regarding the mopar brand. Guys like Eddie, Monty, Darren, Bob George, Jimmy, Fred, and many others are the ones lots of us guys look to for help and information. I've had the pleasure of meeting Darren at the pump gas drags, and up at SGMP for the mopar nats, and Eddie also. They both took the time to chat some while they weren't thrashing on their cars, which I thought was very nice. I'm sort of new to the mopar group, and like to talk and learn about the what works and what doesn't. All of us do not have the finances, or resources that others do. We do the best we can with what we have. I saved for a long time, and am proud of what I was able to put together, even though it may not be a beautiful showpiece, or one of the fastest bullets, I saved and put it together by myself, in my driveway. I'm taking my weeks vacation this year, and heading up to the Hemi Reunion, and am really looking forward to seeing all the cars, and people there, and hopefully get to learn more about the sport/hobby that I love. Yeah, it's got a hemi........a REAL hemi.

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Re: Muscle Motors 900 HP Pump Gas Crate Motor! #106223 08/17/08 01:33 PM 08/17/08 01:33 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,404 Chesterfield Twp. Mi. J John Burdine pro stock
John Burdine pro stock J Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,404 Chesterfield Twp. Mi.	how about some specs on Mike's 622 please.

Re: Muscle Motors 900 HP Pump Gas Crate Motor! [Re: 65HemiCoronet] #106224 08/17/08 02:24 PM 08/17/08 02:24 PM
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AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,036 Oregon	Mike has put together an impressive combo. I'm not sure about that price though, it might be a misprint. Earlier in the article is says the crate motor costs $21 per HP which would be $18,900. Then at the end of the article is says $15,995. I don't know how he can sell that combo for $16K unless he lined up some really good deals on parts. I have a new combo going together with Victor heads, World block, Callies crank, etc and it is going to cost me more than $15,000 just for the parts.

Re: Muscle Motors 900 HP Pump Gas Crate Motor! [Re: John Burdine] #106225 08/17/08 05:53 PM 08/17/08 05:53 PM
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John Burdine pro stock J Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,404 Chesterfield Twp. Mi.	Quote: how about some specs on Mike's 622 please. NE1!

Re: Muscle Motors 900 HP Pump Gas Crate Motor! [Re: John Burdine] #106226 08/17/08 08:12 PM 08/17/08 08:12 PM
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10sec340 member 1 Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 123 long beach,ny	Quote: Quote: how about some specs on Mike's 622 please. NE1! this is just what I'm looking for,,,,need specs and prices. real 383 car now 440..

Re: Muscle Motors 900 HP Pump Gas Crate Motor! [Re: 10sec340] #106227 08/17/08 08:39 PM 08/17/08 08:39 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Wouldnt it be easier to just call Mike or Eric at Muscle Motors???

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