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Starter Relay Questions #1054945
08/17/11 07:48 PM
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There is a reason Ive saved the electrical for last on my car. Im generally a knuckle dragging mechanic and Im working to change this. I Bolted on the starter relay today. Who ever took this car apart left everything bolted to the old unit. My plan is to transfer the wires from old to new. So far It was an easy transfer and I now have a new positive cable bolted up to it. Does this look right? Im going to my wiring diagram in the manual tonight to confirm some other hook up?

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Re: Starter Relay Questions [Re: 19cuda73] #1054946
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Re: Starter Relay Questions [Re: 19cuda73] #1054947
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Re: Starter Relay Questions [Re: 19cuda73] #1054948
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Re: Starter Relay Questions [Re: MMC Detroit] #1054949
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Dennis, is your plastic shield tight on the relay or is it loose? I transfered my wires over one at a time too, but the shield is loose on the stud. I don't know if I'm missing a washer or something that would take up the extra space.

Re: Starter Relay Questions [Re: burdar] #1054950
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Dennis, is your plastic shield tight on the relay or is it loose? I transfered my wires over one at a time too, but the shield is loose on the stud. I don't know if I'm missing a washer or something that would take up the extra space.




The plastic shield isn't held tight, it gets trapped but not clamped....


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Re: Starter Relay Questions [Re: 19cuda73] #1054951
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There is a reason Ive saved the electrical for last on my car. Im generally a knuckle dragging mechanic and Im working to change this. I Bolted on the starter relay today. Who ever took this car apart left everything bolted to the old unit. My plan is to transfer the wires from old to new. So far It was an easy transfer and I now have a new positive cable bolted up to it. Does this look right? Im going to my wiring diagram in the manual tonight to confirm some other hook up?




In your photo it appears the original wire going from the relay down to the starter is still in place but a new battery cable is attached to the main stud of the relay... Assuming you bought a OE style reproduction cable the wire from the relay to the solenoid is serviced with the new cable, it is the wire taped to the battery cable heading down to the starter... After taking another look at your photo, the tan/brown wire seen laying on the battery tray is the trigger lead from the starter relay to the starter..

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Re: Starter Relay Questions [Re: burdar] #1054952
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Funny you mentioned that. Yesterday I saw the shield was loose at first with the new relay so i took the base nut off of the old one and I'm using it on this new one. The old nut appears to be slightly wider and has a slightly thinner profile


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Re: Starter Relay Questions [Re: 19cuda73] #1054953
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Starter relays are different for 4 speed and auto. (depending on year). Yours is correct for your application

The lower connection closest to the firewall is for ignition and the one forward of it is for the clutch safety or neutral safety (clutch in to start). I don't think 73 4 speeds used the switch on the clutch pedal for this system so you will need to check your wire diagram to see what makes up your neutral safety circuit.

Re: Starter Relay Questions [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1054954
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In your photo it appears the original wire going from the relay down to the starter is still in place but a new battery cable is attached to the main stud of the relay... Assuming you bought a OE style reproduction cable the wire from the relay to the solenoid is serviced with the new cable, it is the wire taped to the battery cable heading down to the starter... After taking another look at your photo, the tan/brown wire seen laying on the battery tray is the trigger lead from the starter relay to the starter..




Here is the new and improved picture. Ran the headlight harness and the main engine harness. I believe this now matches the wiring diagram. I appreciate all the pictures and assistance. Im sure I will need more help in the next few days coming.

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1966 Charger 383 4 speed (Black with Red interior)
1973 Cuda 340 4 speed (Lemontwist)
1972 Corvette






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