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Re: WHY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1040928
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I run a stick car. The car won't tolerate me buying any cheap stuff.
I also bend over backwards to buy USA made (I include Canada as well).
"Globilization" of corporations has muddied the waters, but a phone call to the company will most often get you the truth.

Re: WHY [Re: shoebox] #1040929
07/27/11 01:43 PM
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It seems people ask if anyone has any real world experience with the cheap stuff and if so what was it? I built my car mostly out of used cheap junk. It was the only way possible for me. Lots of used parts including a nice 1050 domi for 400 bucks, The complete top end came off e-bag. I guess if people let other people know if the cheap stuff worked for them or not and if people have had problems to let others no that is great. Thats what this site is for! You only have to read the posts you want. I like to hear about that cheap stuff so keep it coming.


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Re: WHY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1040930
07/27/11 02:29 PM
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My car is a super budget car. One income household, new baby, I need
To save wherever I can. 1k dollar stealth heads saved me 600-700
Over eddys. In the end it's the same performance. These heads
Are proven. My parts choices are appropriate for my goals. If I were to
Have a Chinese part take me down I'm not going to tell you! Sorry
I don't make as much money as you... Forgive me for wanting to get
My car running in this lifetime.... I'm not going to wait 8 yrs to drive
My dart



How come if your car has $50k in it, those peolpe look down on the guy that can only spend $20k on their car. And the $20k guy laughs at the guy that can only spend $10k. You build what you can afford. Hopefully you run the car at the level it was built for. You should never worry about what somebody else buys or does to his car. Just be happy with what you can do to yours. If I, or anybody else wants to buy a cheap or lessor part than one your deep pockets can afford, its none of your dam buisness.




Part of the problem is, if that cheapo part did cause
a failure the guy/guys are to embarrassed to man up
and say it broke... it would maybe help another person
if they knew




I would not be embarrassed to "man up". But who the he77 are you for me to "man up to" I could care less what you think of me, my car or my parts. I would never man up to someone about a part that broke. If a part broke and someone asked me a question about it I would answer. I am not afraid to answer no matter what it is. It sounds like you know a lot about cheap parts and not manning up.

Re: WHY [Re: 1967dartgt] #1040931
07/27/11 02:40 PM
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NOT ME!!!

thats why it took me SOOOOOO long to build my heap.

The way I look at it is, Yes its an expensive hobby, Yes the parts, machining, and know how are expensive, but if you really only have to do it once, in my case, its better in the long run. I bought K1 crank, Child track master rods, Diamond pistons, Solid roller cam, smith bro pushrods, Indybrock top end, and I dont drive the car very much at all, but when I do I HAMMER on it, and smile everytime I do it. I know how my right foot reacts to my emotions, and its never easy on parts.

I totally agree with ya Mike, and have the very same theory.

The theory came from Dad, RIP, If your going to build something, build it strong, correct, and make it pirty. Dont slobber it together, dont have brake lines bent way out of the way just so you dont have to cut, and re flare it. Dont have 10 mile long plug wires coiled up and tied to the shock stud, Dont have the thing look like a half thought out rat trap, and have fuel lines rubbing, or close to heat.

Always have a plan even if it gonna cost ya a few hundred, grand or more than origionally thought.

Kasey

Re: WHY [Re: dragram440] #1040932
07/27/11 02:44 PM
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It seems people ask if anyone has any real world experience with the cheap stuff and if so what was it? I built my car mostly out of used cheap junk. It was the only way possible for me. Lots of used parts including a nice 1050 domi for 400 bucks, The complete top end came off e-bag. I guess if people let other people know if the cheap stuff worked for them or not and if people have had problems to let others no that is great. Thats what this site is for! You only have to read the posts you want. I like to hear about that cheap stuff so keep it coming.




I agree with you somewhat, but cheap in your case hasnt meant poor quality. Just cause you got it cheap dosnt mean those Jessel rockers you threw on that 588" B1 monster you have are Junk, they might have 4 passes on them, and they were hitting something in the top end. So poor quality may not be what your buying, but your getting the "used" parts at a great buy as I have done off here SOOO many times.

Kasey

Re: WHY [Re: Moparnut426] #1040933
07/27/11 02:45 PM
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Dont slobber it together, dont have brake lines bent way out of the way just so you dont have to cut, and re flare it. Dont have 10 mile long plug wires coiled up and tied to the shock stud, Dont have the thing look like a half thought out rat trap, and have fuel lines rubbing, or close to heat.






OK I'm never going to let anyone look at my
car again



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Re: WHY [Re: ZIPPY] #1040934
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Hey Zippy,

No offence if you have stuff like that, I just was raised and tought no to, and I guess Im a little on the analretentive side when it comes to car work.

kasey

Re: WHY [Re: StrkrDart69] #1040935
07/27/11 02:58 PM
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I would not be embarrassed to "man up". But who the he77 are you for me to "man up to" I could care less what you think of me, my car or my parts. I would never man up to someone about a part that broke. If a part broke and someone asked me a question about it I would answer. I am not afraid to answer no matter what it is. It sounds like you know a lot about cheap parts and not manning up.




I really could care less about you or your CHEAP
parts... because I dont buy crap... I might have to
wait a month or so to get the better parts

Re: WHY [Re: Moparnut426] #1040936
07/27/11 02:58 PM
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hey i buy 1 thing at a time..it took a while,but im on a budget..but the stuff i buy hopefully will last..also you get whatcha pay for

Re: WHY [Re: fishy340] #1040937
07/27/11 03:01 PM
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Pretty good thread here...At the end of the season I am gonna dump my Stage VI heads for Indy...Looks like the best bang for the buck!!


Need your rear end checked out? Contact Grizzly!!
Re: WHY [Re: tboomer] #1040938
07/27/11 03:08 PM
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Cheap is a hard lesson to learn; once you've been burned by junk you either bail out or take your lumps and do it the right way the 2nd time.

Example - How many things did your parents try to teach you, but you didn't listen cause you thought you knew better, til you screwed up and found out they were right all along?

Some lessons you just have to learn for yourself.

Re: WHY [Re: Moparnut426] #1040939
07/27/11 03:25 PM
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Hey Zippy,

No offence if you have stuff like that, I just was raised and tought no to, and I guess Im a little on the analretentive side when it comes to car work.

kasey




Was only kidding Kasey

I've got a few loops in my brake lines in spots, for flexibility and to make it easier to work on, that I was never totally happy with the appearance of...other than that, am pretty much of the same mind.

Have become much less of a perfectionist (about appearance stuff) as I got older. When neatness really counts the most, is when it affects safety, maintenance and function too. But you'll never catch me polishing my transmission case, for instance


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Re: WHY [Re: ZIPPY] #1040940
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polishing a tranny case, for instance

Ummmmm I can think of another pink A body lover LOL

Kasey

Re: WHY [Re: Moparnut426] #1040941
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Yeah your car made me think of our friend
from Louisiana


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Re: WHY [Re: ZIPPY] #1040942
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when beeing poor you realy cant afford being cheap..

nope im not buying cheap whatsoever i know that most of the time i save in the long run by paying a bit more in the first place.

from time to time its frustrating reading on this forum about how some think that some parts are just to expensive,when im paying much more just to have the stuff shiped and then added taxes when its imported.

Re: WHY [Re: dennismopar73] #1040943
07/27/11 03:37 PM
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I'm not embarrassed to say but why tell the OP and hear flak from
Some a###ole? Why would you even start this thread? Your tube chassis
Fast as #%^* RACE car is ugly anyway!


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Re: WHY [Re: shoebox] #1040944
07/27/11 03:45 PM
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I'm not embarrassed to say but why tell the OP and hear flak from
Some a###ole? Why would you even start this thread? Your tube chassis
Fast as #%^* RACE car is ugly anyway!




Do you have a problem with me... if so ... piss off
and dont read the post or put your useless 2 cents
in anyways

Re: WHY [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1040945
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I don't have a problem with you. I just don't understand WHY your being
Ugly. You go spend your megabucks on w this and 9 that and if a
Guy wants to run cat rockers who cares? Everyone knows that
Cheap parts can fail just your stuff can too! But don't knock what
I'm doing!


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Re: WHY [Re: mloboda] #1040946
07/27/11 04:03 PM
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I run a stick car. The car won't tolerate me buying any cheap stuff.
I also bend over backwards to buy USA made (I include Canada as well).
"Globilization" of corporations has muddied the waters, but a phone call to the company will most often get you the truth.




Great way to explain Mike. Having been a stick racer myself, I know mediocre parts won't cut it and will ultimately break.

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I'm not embarrassed to say but why tell the OP and hear flak from
Some a###ole? Why would you even start this thread? Your tube chassis
Fast as #%^* RACE car is ugly anyway!




Do you have a problem with me... if so ... piss off
and dont read the post or put your useless 2 cents
in anyways






Come on children, haul your horns in this isn't a bashing session! Some of us can't afford hi-dollar and some of us do the best we can with what we have.
No sense in getting 'pissy' with one another, we're supposed to be enjoying this, so...CHILL OUT KIDDIES!!!


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Re: WHY [Re: shoebox] #1040947
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I don't have a problem with you. I just don't understand WHY your being
Ugly. You go spend your megabucks on w this and 9 that and if a
Guy wants to run cat rockers who cares? Everyone knows that
Cheap parts can fail just your stuff can too! But don't knock what
I'm doing!




Mike dosnt care that your cheap. What he and I both dont care for is people like you for instance who tend to complain, cry, or want sympathy when YOUR junk breaks. Mike is a stand up guy, he dosnt brag, or pop off, very often, on here, and I for one dont understand you getting soo offensive and crude over what I thought of as a good post.

Kasey

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