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Re: HP for $$$ [Re: pittsburghracer] #1037604
07/25/11 09:35 PM
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As stated on other post the car is a protouring car running 17in tires 6 piston bear brakes 13 front 12 in the back full leather interior was just a feature car in a big mag runs on pump gas should go 9.50s at the track in street trim and is a dog? What does that make your sons car a super slug? R10.50s in a car set up to go race.
Sorry he's not here to defend himself as her is at the track racing his car and not here . He added 200-300# t hmore to his car this week as he was told to slow it down more till he gets the roll bar in after running a 11.40 on the brakes last week in the 5th round. I would love to see how fast it would go in the Fall with the 300-400# he's added so far out of it and the four barrel hooked back up. [/quote

So I see you cant answer questions. How do you figure a pumpgas small block on 17 in dragradials protouring car in street trim through exaust to the rear bumper, full leather interior front and rear seats that should run 9.50s is a slug. I think there are alot of people on here with race cars that are that fast. I am asking you not your son, asked for your opinion on your sons car not his.




Don't put words in my mouth I didn't say its a slug,I said its a dog. I base a lot of my judgement calls on dollar spent per HP. I did not read your other post as it keeps going in circles. To compare your friends engines to my sons is just crazy. Now when he wants to step up his program and add a POWER ADDER and a few cubic inches you may have a fair comparison but for now its a 10 second 360 with a stock cast crank,520 lift cam,and a set of heads his Dad did some scratching on.




Well since it a small block chevy he has a lot less in then any sbm build. I believe its around 15,500 total with the blower. So I guess then you just spout off your mouth with out knowing all the facts, since you didn't bother to read the rest of the info.NICE


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Re: HP for $$$ [Re: 1967dartgt] #1037605
07/26/11 04:47 PM
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As stated on other post the car is a protouring car running 17in tires 6 piston bear brakes 13 front 12 in the back full leather interior was just a feature car in a big mag runs on pump gas should go 9.50s at the track in street trim and is a dog? What does that make your sons car a super slug? R10.50s in a car set up to go race.
Sorry he's not here to defend himself as her is at the track racing his car and not here . He added 200-300# t hmore to his car this week as he was told to slow it down more till he gets the roll bar in after running a 11.40 on the brakes last week in the 5th round. I would love to see how fast it would go in the Fall with the 300-400# he's added so far out of it and the four barrel hooked back up. [/quote

So I see you cant answer questions. How do you figure a pumpgas small block on 17 in dragradials protouring car in street trim through exaust to the rear bumper, full leather interior front and rear seats that should run 9.50s is a slug. I think there are alot of people on here with race cars that are that fast. I am asking you not your son, asked for your opinion on your sons car not his.




Don't put words in my mouth I didn't say its a slug,I said its a dog. I base a lot of my judgement calls on dollar spent per HP. I did not read your other post as it keeps going in circles. To compare your friends engines to my sons is just crazy. Now when he wants to step up his program and add a POWER ADDER and a few cubic inches you may have a fair comparison but for now its a 10 second 360 with a stock cast crank,520 lift cam,and a set of heads his Dad did some scratching on.




Well since it a small block chevy he has a lot less in then any sbm build. I believe its around 15,500 total with the blower. So I guess then you just spout off your mouth with out knowing all the facts, since you didn't bother to read the rest of the info.NICE




doesnt need to be much more expensive for the same level of performance if the mopar is built by someone skilled with a brain.

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Re: HP for $$$ [Re: 1Fast340] #1037606
07/26/11 10:03 PM
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That was going to a engine builder(Andy Jensen) with a idea and leaving with a complete motor.Dart block,callies crank,je pistons, manley rods,jesel rockers,dart pro 215 cc heads etc, he took nothing to the machine shop!!


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Re: HP for $$$ [Re: 1967dartgt] #1037607
07/26/11 10:34 PM
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15,500 thats alot of money give me a 10,000$ big block the only way it will be able to keep up is if we tie a rope on the frontend of that car. there is no way i would brag about a 15,500$ 10 sec seriosly 15,500$ hp$$

Re: HP for $$$ [Re: d-150] #1037608
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Oh yea 9.50 on a real pass and pump gas.


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Re: HP for $$$ [Re: 1967dartgt] #1037609
07/26/11 10:56 PM
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And I forgot you guys like those junk yard builds that make ten passes and blow up!!!lol


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Re: HP for $$$ [Re: d-150] #1037610
07/26/11 10:58 PM
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15,500 thats alot of money give me a 10,000$ big block the only way it will be able to keep up is if we tie a rope on the frontend of that car. there is no way i would brag about a 15,500$ 10 sec seriosly 15,500$ hp$$




So lets hear this 10,000 dollar build that will make 900 hp on pump gas...


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Re: HP for $$$ [Re: 1967dartgt] #1037611
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15,500 thats alot of money give me a 10,000$ big block the only way it will be able to keep up is if we tie a rope on the frontend of that car. there is no way i would brag about a 15,500$ 10 sec seriosly 15,500$ hp$$




So lets hear this 10,000 dollar build that will make 900 hp on pump gas...



How do you come up with 900 Hp. Oh I forgot that's the NEW MATH they teach in school.


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Re: HP for $$$ [Re: pittsburghracer] #1037612
07/26/11 11:28 PM
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The guy said he would drag this car down the track and since it makes around 850 hp I figure you will need about 900hp. Thats my new math!!

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Re: HP for $$$ [Re: 1967dartgt] #1037613
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So where are the 10,000 dollar pump gas motors that make 850 HP?


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Re: HP for $$$ [Re: 1967dartgt] #1037614
07/27/11 08:59 PM
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So where are the 10,000 dollar pump gas motors that make 850 HP?




i dont have one but with a modern cnc'd ported procomp head i think it could be done

low deck 511 short block $4k
procomp cnc'd heads and springs $2k
cam, lifters,chain,push rods and gear $1700
oil pan, pickup, and pump $500
intake and carb $1k(i never buy new for a carb or intake)
rockers hughes or harlands $600-$1k


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Re: HP for $$$ [Re: sixpackgut] #1037615
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jc whitney has a sale on cams,

Re: HP for $$$ [Re: 1967dartgt] #1037616
07/27/11 09:21 PM
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So where are the 10,000 dollar pump gas motors that make 850 HP?




easy if you have a BB. all it takes is a little bit of boost and maybe 500 cubic inches. A stock stroke 440 that was making around 470 was toped with a BDS 671 and 8psi of boost and it made over 700. Doesn't take much. But go ahead and keep trying with that small block.

Re: HP for $$$ [Re: fishy340] #1037617
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jc witney cam is probably all that a big block would need and i will probably go for the 15% off train horns

Re: HP for $$$ [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1037618
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So where are the 10,000 dollar pump gas motors that make 850 HP?




easy if you have a BB. all it takes is a little bit of boost and maybe 500 cubic inches. A stock stroke 440 that was making around 470 was toped with a BDS 671 and 8psi of boost and it made over 700. Doesn't take much. But go ahead and keep trying with that small block. [/quote

Ok, how much was the 671 , and I hope it wasn't a stock 440. A 671 would realy be choking out on a built 500 inch motor so up grade that to a 871 or 1071. Sorry but you guys don't understand what it takes to go this fast and not break parts.


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Re: HP for $$$ [Re: fishy340] #1037619
07/27/11 09:53 PM
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jc whitney has a sale on cams,




you spent more than $1700 on a cam, lifters pushrods and a timing chain???

Damn those small blocks are expensive


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Re: HP for $$$ [Re: 1967dartgt] #1037620
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hey mryuck have you seen that stock 440 cast piston motor the supercharger store built, : wait bolted on. i think it made like 800 horsepower see you do not have to be a rocket scientist to build a big block just a socket set

Re: HP for $$$ [Re: d-150] #1037621
07/27/11 10:13 PM
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hey mryuck have you seen that stock 440 cast piston motor the supercharger store built, : wait bolted on. i think it made like 800 horsepower see you do not have to be a rocket scientist to build a big block just a socket set




Would love to see those cast piston after a few races oh wait I would only have to look at the track to see them laying there. And how much was the blower set up fromthem. I priced a f1 from them complete with out intercooler was 5500.00 not cheap!


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Re: HP for $$$ [Re: 1967dartgt] #1037622
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talked to the supercharger store before they said stock cast pistons were plenty strong call them yourself and ask. i just missed a 440 in the junkyard for 250$ + 5500=5750$

Re: HP for $$$ [Re: d-150] #1037623
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hey mryuck have you seen that stock 440 cast piston motor the supercharger store built, : wait bolted on. i think it made like 800 horsepower see you do not have to be a rocket scientist to build a big block just a socket set



Nope, but there was a member that had a 61-62 dart w/ a junk yard cast crank/piston 440 w/ a 671 that ran high 10's with nothing fancy...

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