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Re: big block VS small block
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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07/21/11 12:54 PM
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I see your point but WHY would you go that route if you could do it with less stall and gear? Maybe the post should be which costs less to build... anyway both will work just a matter of how you want to get there.
Why would you go that route? Because not everybody wants a low rpm high tourqe big block and NO the post shouldn't be which one cost less to build... this post is about 500hp big and small blocks geared and convertered to take advantage of the engine package. Maybe I should have posted which one is more EFFICIENT that really gets you big block guys panties in a wad.
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Re: big block VS small block
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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07/21/11 02:21 PM
07/21/11 02:21 PM
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Mr.Yuck
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Pretty hard to build a 440 with only 500 HP. We would have to go to the junk yard for a set of 906 heads. 
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Re: big block VS small block
[Re: dodgeboy11]
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07/21/11 02:46 PM
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Which one weighs more.. 
A: 1 pound of Lead...
B: 1 pound of feathers...
Maybe that will help.. 
Has nothing to do with "Big or Small" blocks.. 
Chris... 
Heres my comparison analogy
Witch one hits the ground first.., from a 1320' drop!
A: 1 pound of lead..
B: 1 pound of feathers..
Has nothing to do with "Big or Small" blocks..
Mike 
WELL, if the pound of feathers is in the shape of a parachute...
still wouldnt mather if it was in total vacum 
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Re: big block VS small block
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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07/21/11 02:49 PM
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Pretty hard to build a big block 440 with only 500 HP. We would have to go to the junk yard for a set of 906 heads.
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Re: big block VS small block
[Re: HEMI472]
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07/21/11 03:33 PM
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ok since you guys want to fight about big and small block lets try this.
lets say you have a 360 with 500 hp and 200 foot pounds of torque and you put in a 4 inch crank and now it still has 500 hp but now it has 400 foot pounds of torque. you are saying it will run the same?? same 3000 pound car.
ok so where are all you small block guys now?? come on now it easy its yes or no???
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Re: big block VS small block
[Re: HEMI472]
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07/21/11 03:46 PM
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YES!
Fully optimized!
YES!
Less cubes will make the horsepower at higher rpm, thus requiring a lower rearend gear, which multiplies torque. And I'm not talking out my ego like half you guys here. I am small block converting big block guy. Mostly cuz the aftermarket has made it cheaper and easier.
So YES guys your 500 cubic inch engine making 550 horsepower doesn't run any quicker than a 550 horsepower smallblock. Is it more streetable with 3.55 gears and 3k stall? Yes. But its not gonna be any faster then the 550 hp 340 that's running 5.13s.
If you don't get it by now maybe go back to school and take a physics class.
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Re: big block VS small block
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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07/21/11 04:01 PM
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maybe a better post would be "practical" What's the easiest/cheapest block to make 500 hp? Any block big/small can make power if you toss enuff money into it.
nobody cares what it costs or how to get 500hp the question is what is the differece in torque going to do
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Re: big block VS small block
[Re: HEMI472]
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07/21/11 04:07 PM
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maybe a better post would be "practical" What's the easiest/cheapest block to make 500 hp? Any block big/small can make power if you toss enuff money into it.
nobody cares what it costs or how to get 500hp the question is what is the differece in torque going to do
Maybe you should stop puffing out your chest and try to understand what we are saying. The next time you are beat by a small blocl ask yourself how it could be possible since the engine doesn't make enough torque. 
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Re: big block VS small block
[Re: viperblue72]
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07/21/11 04:23 PM
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YES!
Fully optimized!
YES!
Less cubes will make the horsepower at higher rpm, thus requiring a lower rearend gear, which multiplies torque. And I'm not talking out my ego like half you guys here. I am small block converting big block guy. Mostly cuz the aftermarket has made it cheaper and easier.
So YES guys your 500 cubic inch engine making 550 horsepower doesn't run any quicker than a 550 horsepower smallblock. Is it more streetable with 3.55 gears and 3k stall? Yes. But its not gonna be any faster then the 550 hp 340 that's running 5.13s.
If you don't get it by now maybe go back to school and take a physics class.
This is correct thats why I made this post to stop an argument, but no matter what some people just don't get it and never will.
Mr. Yuck if you keep saying the post should be this or that quit posting on my post and start your own. I would like the post to stay on track (GOT IT)
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Re: big block VS small block
[Re: w7smallblock]
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07/21/11 05:39 PM
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Mr.Yuck
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YES!
Fully optimized!
YES!
Less cubes will make the horsepower at higher rpm, thus requiring a lower rearend gear, which multiplies torque. And I'm not talking out my ego like half you guys here. I am small block converting big block guy. Mostly cuz the aftermarket has made it cheaper and easier.
So YES guys your 500 cubic inch engine making 550 horsepower doesn't run any quicker than a 550 horsepower smallblock. Is it more streetable with 3.55 gears and 3k stall? Yes. But its not gonna be any faster then the 550 hp 340 that's running 5.13s.
If you don't get it by now maybe go back to school and take a physics class.
This is correct thats why I made this post to stop an argument, but no matter what some people just don't get it and never will.
Mr. Yuck if you keep saying the post should be this or that quit posting on my post and start your own. I would like the post to stay on track (GOT IT)
sorry I'm out. Just trying to inject some logic into the conversation. By the way I'm not the only one who disagrees with you. I'll stand by what I said. A car that makes 500hp and over 570lbs of torque (and a 440 will) would beat a 500hp SB that makes maybe 500lbs of torque. geared and stalled correct blah blah blah
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Re: big block VS small block
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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07/21/11 05:44 PM
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YES!
Fully optimized!
YES!
Less cubes will make the horsepower at higher rpm, thus requiring a lower rearend gear, which multiplies torque. And I'm not talking out my ego like half you guys here. I am small block converting big block guy. Mostly cuz the aftermarket has made it cheaper and easier.
So YES guys your 500 cubic inch engine making 550 horsepower doesn't run any quicker than a 550 horsepower smallblock. Is it more streetable with 3.55 gears and 3k stall? Yes. But its not gonna be any faster then the 550 hp 340 that's running 5.13s.
If you don't get it by now maybe go back to school and take a physics class.
This is correct thats why I made this post to stop an argument, but no matter what some people just don't get it and never will.
Mr. Yuck if you keep saying the post should be this or that quit posting on my post and start your own. I would like the post to stay on track (GOT IT)
sorry I'm out. Just trying to inject some logic into the conversation. By the way I'm not the only one who disagrees with you. I'll stand by what I said. A car that makes 500hp and over 570lbs of torque (and a 440 will) would beat a 500hp SB that makes maybe 500lbs of torque. geared and stalled correct blah blah blah
forgeting about torque multiplication? those 70lbs of diference wont be to the bigblocks advantage anymore if you measure at the wheels,under the cirkumstance that the smallblock will make its power at a higher rpm and therefore having a lower geared rearend and more converter stall.
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