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Timing, Best Street/Strip Distributer for 340/360 #1032450
07/14/11 01:45 PM
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I need more inital for better idle. Guy sold me this custom curved vacuum deal, and it ain't working. I am back to the same issue, where I need more inital without more total...


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Timing, Best Street/Strip Distributer for 340/360 [Re: Dragula] #1032451
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MSD E-curve would probably be your best bet - you can change it with a screwdrier

Re: Timing, Best Street/Strip Distributer for 340/360 [Re: Dragula] #1032452
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Lock it out.


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Re: Timing, Best Street/Strip Distributer for 340/360 [Re: Thumperdart] #1032453
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Lock it out.




Splain how I go about locking it out, and then how I start the engine with say 38* total?

Last edited by Dragula; 07/14/11 02:26 PM.

'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Timing, Best Street/Strip Distributer for 340/360 [Re: Dragula] #1032454
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Not sure how you lock that model out but the msd`s easy plus I don`t know of too many smallblocks that want/need that much timing.


72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
Re: Timing, Best Street/Strip Distributer for 340/360 [Re: Dragula] #1032455
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I use the MP dist and its easy to set the advance...
I set about 18 initial and 34 total... I dont have
the vac advance on this one but I might get one with
vac for the street rod

Re: Timing, Best Street/Strip Distributer for 340/360 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1032456
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It wants 24-25 initial and I have run as much as 41 total. I am still tinkering with total, but when I bring it down to 38, it kills my idle....Too big of a spread to get a really good idle and the total where I want it.

Last edited by Dragula; 07/14/11 03:18 PM.

'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Timing, Best Street/Strip Distributer for 340/360 [Re: Dragula] #1032457
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MSD, I made a bushing that gave me 21 initial and 34 total. The ones that came with it left me in the same boat your in.

Re: Timing, Best Street/Strip Distributer for 340/360 [Re: justinp61] #1032458
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I just put the lightest springs in and when it starts it goes to whatever I have my total set to. starts fine.

Re: Timing, Best Street/Strip Distributer for 340/360 [Re: Dragula] #1032459
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It wants 24-25 initial and I have run as much as 41 total. I am still tinkering with total, but when I bring it down to 38, it kills my idle....Too big of a spread to get a really good idle and the total where I want it.




The MP one will do what you want... it has about 25*
of advance in the dist so you would have to reduce the
advance about 5*

Re: Timing, Best Street/Strip Distributer for 340/360 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1032460
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It wants 24-25 initial and I have run as much as 41 total. I am still tinkering with total, but when I bring it down to 38, it kills my idle....Too big of a spread to get a really good idle and the total where I want it.




The MP one will do what you want... it has about 25*
of advance in the dist so you would have to reduce the
advance about 5*





So your saying I modify my MP one that I have, because I don't think idling at 15* and having my total at 37* or 38* is going to cut it...

I was told vacuum would take care of all that, and this is an MP one with a vacuum pod, and against all my years of working on these I went with what the guy said, and I will be calling him. He asked me what vacuum the engine idles at, and I told him, I have never even owned a vacuum gauge in all the years I have been racing, well he bult it for 12, and I went and bought a gauge after recieving the distributer and it reads 5-6....All I know is, I get a great idle at 24-25, and good top end around 38-39, but I can't get both. I hate stock crap....NEVER RUN A VACUUM DISTRIBUTER ON A CAR YOU RACE!

Last edited by Dragula; 07/14/11 07:43 PM.

'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Timing, Best Street/Strip Distributer for 340/360 [Re: DJVCuda] #1032461
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MSD E-curve would probably be your best bet - you can change it with a screwdrier




Hoping to find out in the next couple of weeks....going to fire up the 408 for the fist time, built a run-in stand

it's a pretty cool unit....now to see if it works...LOL

Rickster

Re: Timing, Best Street/Strip Distributer for 340/360 [Re: rickstershemi] #1032462
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Called him back, its been almost a year and he was real good about it. I have one comming with 24* initial and 36* total, no vacuum...


Looked at the MSD E-curve, and I think it will hit the fire wall on my small block:

http://www.jegs.com/i/MSD+Ignition/121/8504/10002/-1

If I was keeping the truck, I would get one of these in the small cap version, maybe I should get one for the W2 engine in my Cuda, we will see:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CRN-1000-1811/

Last edited by Dragula; 07/14/11 07:53 PM.

'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Timing, Best Street/Strip Distributer for 340/360 [Re: Dragula] #1032463
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Here's a couple of pics of a RB dist which is the same
as a A engine dist when it comes to the guts

6730104-DSC00068.JPG (19 downloads)
Re: Timing, Best Street/Strip Distributer for 340/360 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1032464
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6730110-DSC00067.JPG (17 downloads)
Re: Timing, Best Street/Strip Distributer for 340/360 [Re: Dragula] #1032465
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Find a old accell dual point convert it to pertronix and you will have the best of both with a dist that you can custom dial easily and not the problems with mag pickups like Mopar perf

Re: Timing, Best Street/Strip Distributer for 340/360 [Re: Dragula] #1032466
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Just put two light springs in it problem solved!
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DCC-2932675/
or
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MRG-925B/

That's all I ever do all in by 1500 or so!








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