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Re: Subframe connectors, which way should we #1021
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Much thanks Max, just what I was looking for. No cold concrete here, or rust either ...maybe a move is in order??? All you have to deal with is the plastics turning to powder...oh well...a couple of months of hell beats winters icy grip for 5 months...

Re: Subframe connectors, which way should we [Re: pete] #1022
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WOW Pete........nice work !! so if I got this straight, when you cut the connector to the floor's contour, did you box it with the flange material, or just weld the flange to the sides? and how about those torque boxes ? home made or bought ??

More pics PLEASE !!!

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Re: Subframe connectors, which way should we [Re: Todd_DesMarais] #1023
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I boxed them, the torque boxes are mine.
Thx Pete

Re: Subframe connectors, which way should we [Re: rapom] #1024
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Thanks Rapom. So, what I can find on sale between .083 and .125 it is then .

Re: Subframe connectors, which way should we [Re: nomore65BelvJim] #1025
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Hi Jim, I know enough about Arizona to miss it everyday. We have a 1/3 acre pie slice piece of land overlooking Lake Havasu. It is at the end of a Cul de Sac in Lake Havasu City. Bought it in the 60's, gonna built there one day.
Hope those jpegs helped.. Had to scrape the undercoat off, then weld after taking out the interior. Lotta work, but it's neat putting a jack in the middle of the car and jacking up the whole side of the Coronet., But if I had it to do over I wouldn't have done it with .125" wall. Too heavy.
Max

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Now THAT is how SFC's OUGHT to be... I don't think I have that kind of patience, though. Ugh, that had to be a lot of work. Should be SCCA Street Modified-legal, though... no cutting of the floorpan to install. I just bought some 2x3x(3/16" = 0.1875") sticks to start mocking up my SFC's. They're thicker than I had wanted, but won't add too much weight to my car. It's all down low, anyway. I'll probably install some sheetmetal "struts" to tie the bar in to the floorpan once I get it tied in.
Nice job!
Clair

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Hey Max....Havasu, nice! C'mon out and visit sometime. The pics will be a great help...as soon as I clear out the garage and roll the shell in. The cover hasnt been off for over a year and its time to get back to work on it.
Jim

Re: Subframe connectors, which way shoul [Re: rapom] #1028
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Rapom, what did you use to get the undercoating off? I am doing an under car cleaning, moving the springs, mini-tubs and connectors, on my 65 Belvedere 1.

I am about to hire a fulltime chiropractor to keep me going w/ the scraping..

So far, it's been paint stripper, kerosene,air putty knife,.. no workie!
About all I can make any progress at all with is the propane torch and scraper. That's fine for flat areas.. it's the corners, joints, uneven surfaces that are killin me!!

Yours looks great! Are you going to sand it down and paint ??

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Anyone use the new magnum force subframe connectors?


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Re: Subframe connectors, which way shoul [Re: Kam*Kuda] #1030
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Anyone have some pics for install on an EBody? Went out in the garage this afternoon looking through my scrap heap, and low and behold, some .083 wall 2X3 from when I did my subframe connectors and cage in my Mustang. I ran my connectors through the floor on my Mustang, but did not really want to do that on my Chally. Looking under the car looks like I have plenty of room @ the torsion bar/subframe mount, but toward the rear subframe, runs out of room. So, anyone have some pics they would like to share. I really do not want to cut my new floorpans

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talk about getting in on this post late, but should the engine be in the car to do the connectors. Mine is still on the stand waiting to go to the machine shop.
Any disadvantages to doing the cage, SFC without the weight in the nose?


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Hey 71challenger, I believe member Pete's car (six or so posts up) is an e-body/71 up b-body. however, his connectors are a little more complicated by the looks of things. beautiful job though, and factory looking to boot.

I also have a cuda that will get connectors someday, and share your concern. I was going to do like Tim did on his Charger, and bend the connectors to fit, but now I think Pete's way is the ticket !

Hows about some more pics Pete ??

Todd


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Yeah I saw that, he did a great job. I am just hoping I can stay away from cutting up my new floor pans .

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Oldtimer, I started in Nov. and finished in mid Dec.
I tried EasyOff oven cleaner first and it didn't seem to do the job to well. I ended up using a torch and scrapper to do the job. Just worked on it about and 1and 1/2 hours a day. After I'm done with my tubs I'm going to go through rags and Kerosine or Brake cleaner to get off the residue. Then I'm going to Sand Blast everything before painting the undercarriage with Zero Rust. I am using a specialized scrapper that enabled me to get 99.5% of all areas. I'll take a picture of the scrapper later on and post it on this post. I'm pretty sure you can get it at any hardware store.

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Yeah I saw that, he did a great job. I am just hoping I can stay away from cutting up my new floor pans .




Have you seen the new subframe connectors that Magnumforce Race Car fabrication is selling? A bit spendy but they appear to have three point attachment, do not require floor cutting and tuck up real nice under the car.

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Re: Subframe connectors, which way shoul [Re: origcharger] #1036
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I used a propane torch + gasket scraper to get the undercoating off. It comes off easy when it's hot. Then afterward a quick spray with carb cleaner/wipe off prepped it for welding.


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Re: Subframe connectors, which way shoul [Re: origcharger] #1037
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Here is the Magnumforce Race Car pieces. I think I'll go home made and save some big bucks.

Re: Subframe connectors, which way shoul [Re: rapom] #1038
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Looks like I'm not too far off w/ the torch and scraper!! Damn! I'm tooooo old for that torture!!

Thanks everyone for the input.. Back on my back..Now I know how a hooker feels!!

Re: Subframe connectors, which way shoul [Re: BADBEE] #1039
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Here is the Magnumforce Race Car pieces. I think I'll go home made and save some big bucks.





Here are some pictures of how I did my 68 Barracuda using 2x3x1/8 tubing. And yes I have some scraping to do on my undercoating. The connectors are not completely done in the pics but you will get the idea.

Jesse

Re: Subframe connectors, which way shoul [Re: 68Fastback] #1040
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I will try this again for the pictures

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