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Suggestions for cam #1025136
07/03/11 02:19 PM
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Hi all

I thought I would get suggestion on a good street/ strip cam for my car. I would like something that has good street manner with enough vacuum to run my power breaks (12psi) Ok here is the vital. Yet enough to take advantage of good breathing above .500 lift.

440 bored 30 over reconditioned rods Keith black pistons, stealth 440source heads, Holley street dominator intake,
Hedman 13/4" shorty headers.

I would be open to hydraulic or rollers.

Thanks

Mike


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Re: Suggestions for cam [Re: MikeyT] #1025137
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284/484 comp 105c/l

Re: Suggestions for cam [Re: dennismopar73] #1025138
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Racer Brown ssh-38c. Nice little cam.

Re: Suggestions for cam [Re: MikeyT] #1025139
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Give one of the cam gurus here a call.I would think a nice solid lifter would work well.

My thought is why would a man who is ok with running a roller cam settle for 1 3/4 shorty headers?Go get some 1 7/8 long tubes if you want to make all the power you can.Just my opinion.

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Re: Suggestions for cam [Re: MikeyT] #1025140
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Hi all

I thought I would get suggestion on a good street/ strip cam for my car. I would like something that has good street manner with enough vacuum to run my power breaks (12psi) Ok here is the vital. Yet enough to take advantage of good breathing above .500 lift.

440 bored 30 over reconditioned rods Keith black pistons, stealth 440source heads, Holley street dominator intake,
Hedman 13/4" shorty headers.

I would be open to hydraulic or rollers.

Thanks

Mike




I just used a Comp 275HL cam in a 440 build for a customer with similar build specs (mild port eddy heads), 10:1, small headers.
Had the cam put on a 113lca and it made 513TQ and 493HP. Headers were 1 3/4 x 2.5" collector. Way too small! His headers will be TTI's and should pick up 15-20HP easily.
We used 1.6 rockers.
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Re: Suggestions for cam [Re: gch] #1025141
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My thought is why would a man who is ok with running a roller cam settle for 1 3/4 shorty headers?Go get some 1 7/8 long tubes if you want to make all the power you can.Just my opinion.




It is a good question. here is the answer this car has evolved over many years. When I initially put the engine together, I built it the engine was to be a nice cruiser. I really liked how the hedmans fit in the engine bay. They are a great header for an iron headed cruiser, but over time things change. Unfortunately, my exhaust is set up for the 2.5 collectors and I am not really able to make that change right now, so it will be done eventually.

Mike

Guys thanks for the suggestion.


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Re: Suggestions for cam [Re: Brian Hafliger] #1025142
07/03/11 08:23 PM
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Hi all

I thought I would get suggestion on a good street/ strip cam for my car. I would like something that has good street manner with enough vacuum to run my power breaks (12psi) Ok here is the vital. Yet enough to take advantage of good breathing above .500 lift.

440 bored 30 over reconditioned rods Keith black pistons, stealth 440source heads, Holley street dominator intake,
Hedman 13/4" shorty headers.

I would be open to hydraulic or rollers.

Thanks

Mike




I just used a Comp 275HL cam in a 440 build for a customer with similar build specs (mild port eddy heads), 10:1, small headers.
Had the cam put on a 113lca and it made 513TQ and 493HP. Headers were 1 3/4 x 2.5" collector. Way too small! His headers will be TTI's and should pick up 15-20HP easily.
We used 1.6 rockers.
Brian





Brian is this the one your suggesting? BTW I have a 1.5 Harland Sharp rollers rockers.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-CL21-227-4/ is this the one your suggesting?


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Re: Suggestions for cam [Re: MikeyT] #1025143
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Yes but on a 113lca.


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Racer Brown ssh-38c. Nice little cam.



yes i agree totally with that cam would be great,, anything of racer browns best thats out there,

Re: Suggestions for cam [Re: dennismopar73] #1025145
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Take a look @ the 510 hyd. cant remember the part # on it but it works great. Jimmy also has a little bit smaller 494 that sounds & works great too.there are a ton of options with his cams.call him &he will give you a list of options for your combo.410-866-7660 Jim Dow you wont be sorry.

Re: Suggestions for cam [Re: dennismopar73] #1025146
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Racer Brown ssh-38c. Nice little cam.



yes i agree totally with that cam would be great,, anything of racer browns best thats out there,




What are the specs on that cam? I can't find it anywhere. Thanks

Mike


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Re: Suggestions for cam [Re: MikeyT] #1025147
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Racer Brown ssh-38c. Nice little cam.



yes i agree totally with that cam would be great,, anything of racer browns best thats out there,




What are the specs on that cam? I can't find it anywhere. Thanks

Mike




You would want a wide LSA with your power brakes...
such as the 113 lsa like suggested

Re: Suggestions for cam [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1025148
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My FAVORITE Hydraulic cam for a mild 440 is the Crower 271 HDP, I've recommended this cam on moparts for years and people have been very happy with this "bigger than it seems but ultra streetable" stick. The Crower asymmetrical mopar lobes are what the motor wants and as proof they rev higher/pull harder than they look like they will on paper, no other way to put it.

It's 222/234 @.050 and .486/.496 lift (.518/.529 w 1.6's), 112 split and in +5 at 107 with your smallish headers. Absolutely wall to wall torque, plenty of vaccuum, and great top-end pull.

I agree with George that a 1 7/8" long tube header would give you extra lb/ft through the middle, money well spent amd the Hooker is a still a comparative bargain with a thick tube and flange that lasts a long time, probebly forever if you jet hot it

Add a Performer RPM and a 750-850 DP and you're gonna smile great big every time to roll on it; and you're friends are gonna want to hang on to something when you nail it....pretty much the best of all worlds for a mild hydraulic.
The SD is a great manifold and it'll will still work very well, but for a milder type combo the RPM will have better idle vaccuum and a slight edge in torque until about 4000rpm.

To me this is the cam that makes the best of the natural massive torque charachteristics of a 440 magnum, the one that enhances it all throughout the powerband.

FWIW, even with the stealths you should still concentrate on your Mid lift flows, with a smallish port wedge head and mild cam duration you gotta remember that this is where the port window is open (bwteen 1/3 and 2/3) the majority of the time.

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Re: Suggestions for cam [Re: MikeyT] #1025149
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Call Hughes engines i've had GREAT success with them or go custom i use Bullet Cams

Re: Suggestions for cam [Re: MAXEDWEDGE] #1025150
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Thanks everyone for the great help! I really like the profile on that one that Brian picked out (ou812) I had my stealth heads looked over before i put them on and they seemed to really breath when I got into the .500 and greater lift area, so I like the set up on that one.


As always you guys are awesome!
Mike


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