416 stroker Hyd Cam suggestion??
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I'm looking for a flat/hyd cam suggestion for a street/strip 416 build.
10:1 CR OOTB Edelbrocks Edy RPM and 750 holley Long tube headers In a 4 gear Duster with a 3.73 gear
The owner of the car wants a good lopey idle, but from a tuning perspective I'd want something thats not too tempermental to tune and don't want to leave too much on the table in favor of a lope (I'm guessing that the deal with one of those Comp Thumpr cams).
Suggestions?
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Re: 416 stroker Hyd Cam suggestion??
[Re: CJK440]
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06/27/11 12:16 PM
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racer Brown sth-42 410-866-7660 call Jim 254@50 520 lift GREAT CAM
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Re: 416 stroker Hyd Cam suggestion??
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06/27/11 03:09 PM
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comp XE295HL
The 295 is actually pretty hairy. The XE275HL seems to be a really popular choice, but make sure you can handle the lift, and it requires dual springs.
I just installed a XE274H in my 410. Pretty much the same duration as the 275, but with sub-.500" lift. No mistaking if for a stock cam, but it has reasonable street manners.
with all that.
I have 416 with ported edelbrocks, TTI, and run the XE275S. I can run errands around town in it and it will fry street tires.
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Re: 416 stroker Hyd Cam suggestion??
[Re: 471Magnum]
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Sorry, but all hydraulics aside, I would go with the solid mopar .557" cam...I run it, my engine builder runs it, and so do many others for these 408/416 combos. Great idle, awesome mid range, and pulls hard on top even in heavier cars. Not to mention it sounds awesome at WOT.... Only problem with your combo is the crappy carb. Get a good Quick Fuel or other 750-950 that flows well. You could get an annular 950, and it will run with the big dogs. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=5698973&Main=5686072
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Re: 416 stroker Hyd Cam suggestion??
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Yeah the carb is just a cheapie 080508s which will stay for a while at least.
I was hoping to find something that will work with the stock edelbrock max lift limit and springs.
I suppose a solid lifter isn't out of the question but since it isn't my beast, I am not sure how much the owner wants to get into lash adjustments.
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Re: 416 stroker Hyd Cam suggestion??
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06/27/11 05:57 PM
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I wouldn't hesitate to run this.
•Advertised Duration (Int/Exh): 284/292 •Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 242/252 •Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .533/.552 •LSA/ICL: 110/106 •Valve Lash (Int/Exh): Hyd/Hyd •RPM Range: 2500-6600 •Includes: Cam Only
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Re: 416 stroker Hyd Cam suggestion??
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06/28/11 05:11 AM
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comp XE295HL
Ditto - it won't be hairy in a 416.
I run an XS282S in my 390 and the idle feels like a XE272 in a 318.
I reckon the XE295 would behave about the same in a 416.
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Re: 416 stroker Hyd Cam suggestion??
[Re: Moparmal]
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06/28/11 08:42 AM
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The Lunati RAMM mentioned would be a good one, I've run the the 240/250 predessesor of that grind in a 451 and it worked really well. Lobe wise I prefer the old Ultradyne (Now sold through Bullet) Hydraulics, I'd look for something right at the 239I/247E @.050 range and .520 lift on 110 centers in at 105, I'd normally go 108 centers but with the 4 speed we can broaden the curve a bit. If you want to go a tad milder drop down to the 231/239 ultradyne on 108 which is about the best hot street 340/360 hrdraulic flat tappet I've ever seen, Good lope but great drivability and it pulls like a solid upstairs. It should make about as much mid range grunt and Punch in any gear as you'd want with a 4" arm. I'd at least sharpen up the VJ and do a bowl blend on the eddies before bolting them on, money well spent
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Re: 416 stroker Hyd Cam suggestion??
[Re: Streetwize]
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06/30/11 03:02 PM
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I'm leaning toward that Lunati Voodoo or the XE295HL. Edelbrock claims the heads are good to .575 OOTB.
Think the stock springs are up to the task?
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