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new to mopar classics #1018656
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hi all. well in july i'll be aquiring my first true classic, a 99% original 1960 plymouth valiant suburban wagon with the 225 slant and 3 speed stick. well i have a few questions regarding part finding and other stuff.
first off, where can i find a left rear window for this thing in central california. its the large side glass, also need a rear tailgate window.
second, i need a good wireing diagram for this thing because i'm putting in a 65 amp GM alternator since i got about 5 of those in my garage and want something better to charge the battery and to run future items like an AM/FM stereo.
third, what is the lug pattern size on this, i belive it's a 5 lug but wish to put 14 inch rear wheels on it since it has 13's all the way around. i want a slightly aggressive stance with out having to mess with the suspension.
fourth, i need info and full specs on the engine for a future rebuild and where i can find a full shop manual for it so i'm not "flying blind".
anyway i hope i can get plenty of help here. i figured $500 for this thing is a great deal for something that runs and drives.

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Re: new to mopar classics [Re: nikkievix] #1018657
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Welcome!

on point 3, your bolt pattern should be 5 on 4". You can find 14" steel rims from late 60's to early 70's that should fit on directly (most will be 4.5" wide). Small bolt (4") pattern Mopar Rallye wheels should fit also, and they are 5.5" wide. Caution, the wheels on the left side of your car probably had left hand threaded lugs when it was new. After this many years though, its hard to say what may have been swapped around or updated. Look for a "L" stamped on the end of the wheel lug. If the L is present, it is a lefty. (Yes, I picked the low fruit on this one! )


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Re: new to mopar classics [Re: GO_Fish] #1018658
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I'm guessing here but I believe the 13" wheels are 4 lug. Nice find and good price. Probably gonna make up for it looking for parts.
Good luck and have fun. Keep us apraised.

Re: new to mopar classics [Re: GO_Fish] #1018659
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If you care to take a drive over Pacheco Pass come on over to Turlock & check out Valley Auto Wreckers... Next question?

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Re: new to mopar classics [Re: bboogieart] #1018660
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I'm guessing here but I believe the 13" wheels are 4 lug. Nice find and good price. Probably gonna make up for it looking for parts.
Good luck and have fun. Keep us apraised.




The 13" wheels on my 1965 Barracuda are 5 bolt.

Re: new to mopar classics [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #1018661
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hmm, thanks for the info on the wheels as for the glass...dunno if that is the correct shape. i'm going to post a good side view.

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Re: new to mopar classics [Re: Ply72rr] #1018662
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gonna have to add pix in multiple posts. next up is the engine bay. oh and any one want the lancer hubcaps?

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Re: new to mopar classics [Re: nikkievix] #1018663
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i feel like a spammer -.-

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Re: new to mopar classics [Re: nikkievix] #1018664
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ok and one more for the day.. a paint scheme i drew up.

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Re: new to mopar classics [Re: nikkievix] #1018665
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Surf on over to Slantsix.org. They have a lot of good information on getting slanties running good.


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1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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oh today i did find out something interesting when i went to go change the plugs.. if i'm not mistaken, the plug sleeves where used on 1963 to 1974 engines correct? if so then this means..which also assuming the 60 wagon never came with a 225 but a 170, that this is a newer 225 engine.

Re: new to mopar classics [Re: nikkievix] #1018667
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hi all. well in july i'll be aquiring my first true classic, a 99% original 1960 plymouth valiant suburban wagon with the 225 slant and 3 speed stick. well i have a few questions regarding part finding and other stuff.
first off, where can i find a left rear window for this thing in central california. its the large side glass, also need a rear tailgate window.
second, i need a good wireing diagram for this thing because i'm putting in a 65 amp GM alternator since i got about 5 of those in my garage and want something better to charge the battery and to run future items like an AM/FM stereo.
third, what is the lug pattern size on this, i belive it's a 5 lug but wish to put 14 inch rear wheels on it since it has 13's all the way around. i want a slightly aggressive stance with out having to mess with the suspension.
fourth, i need info and full specs on the engine for a future rebuild and where i can find a full shop manual for it so i'm not "flying blind".
anyway i hope i can get plenty of help here. i figured $500 for this thing is a great deal for something that runs and drives.







good luck on the glass,you might get lucky online search.try classic mopar parts,used.

Re: new to mopar classics [Re: nikkievix] #1018668
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oh today i did find out something interesting when i went to go change the plugs.. if i'm not mistaken, the plug sleeves where used on 1963 to 1974 engines correct? if so then this means..which also assuming the 60 wagon never came with a 225 but a 170, that this is a newer 225 engine.




Consider yourself $$$ ahead if you have a later 225. Your 1960 /6 would have had an aluminum block... sounds nice, but they had corrosion problems, and the head gaskets have long been out of production. The later cast iron blocks are bullet proof.


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Re: new to mopar classics [Re: GO_Fish] #1018669
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Re: new to mopar classics [Re: Ronnman] #1018670
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Check swap meets and e-bay for shop manuals.

Re: new to mopar classics [Re: Jim_Lusk] #1018671
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thanks i found out and was confirmed, the engine is an all iron 1965 slant six out of a 65 duster and the owner of that car had put in a cam for a truck engine, the valiant was driven for many many many years with more power than it would have ever had and is an estimated 175+hp and about 280ft lbs of torque. well today was run #2 and with fresh gas in the tank instead of a gravity feed set up like yesterday. well we had an issue, it was odd that it sucked down 5 gallons of gas in 10 minutes of a steady smooth idle at about 800rpm with the petronix pointsless distributor, my friend went to the rear to add another 5 gallon can and he said hey!! theres something wet here, he dabed his finger in it and before he could sniff, there was.....drip, drip,drip,drip......a rust hole or 3 opend up in the steel tank -.- joy. so we told his dad and he was shocked and felt bad, i mean genuinly bad and his brother said just patch the largest hole with steel epoxy putty then clean up the tank with acitone and encase the entire unit in 1/16 inch worth of fiberglass and paint it black. does that sound like a good idea to any one? i mean i'm all for keeping as much of the original stuff on the car since i don't think any one makes those composite tanks for the valiant.

Re: new to mopar classics [Re: nikkievix] #1018672
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ok, so i'm wondering...does any one know where i can get a new gas tank for the wagon? we took the tank off yesterday and peeked inside, it's all thick flakey rust, the tank is too far gone to salvage. if any one is willing to set me up with a tank, i can pay for it and even pick it up if you're within 100 miles of castroville california. i should have my big disbursment check in mid to late july. please help a noob out

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thanks all iron 1965 slant six out of a 65 duster




Psssssssssst hey they didn't make sisters in 1965. They started making sisters in 1970 to 1976.

Welcome and neat little lancer. You tried memory lane for your glass?


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Welcome to Moparts from another of the class of '60'. Dave

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thanks all iron 1965 slant six out of a 65 duster




Psssssssssst hey they didn't make sisters in 1965. They started making sisters in 1970 to 1976.

Welcome and neat little lancer. You tried memory lane for your glass?




Psssst, they didn't make Lancers until '61.
Never heard a Duster called a sister. I've heard DustPan, Ruster, Plymouth Nova, where'd sister come from?

Corrections for a few things mentioned above. 225s were available in '60. Not all '60 225s were aluminum, most were iron. Spark plug tubes were also used on the '60-'62 motors, not just '63-'74. Trucks used the same cam as cars and they have the same HP as cars, 145.

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