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fender tag help needed #1017915
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I have a 70 GTX - second line from bottom startss BL1 P6F8 EF8.... third line from bottom starts BL1 A34 B51... On the top line, in the V codes there is a V21 and a V6X, but NO V9* code, which I believe is for vinyl top. My question is - is this a two tone car Beige top and F8 bottom. I do not have the build sheet so I am coming to my experts. And did two tone cars receive the moldings seperating the top from the bottom?

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Re: fender tag help needed [Re: TrueTripleX] #1017916
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I have a 70 GTX - second line from bottom startss BL1 P6F8 EF8.... third line from bottom starts BL1 A34 B51... On the top line, in the V codes there is a V21 and a V6X, but NO V9* code, which I believe is for vinyl top. My question is - is this a two tone car Beige top and F8 bottom. I do not have the build sheet so I am coming to my experts. And did two tone cars receive the moldings seperating the top from the bottom?




Based on your tag codes above car appears to be: BL1 Beige (top and bottom) with green bucket seat interior, black hood stripes and black longitudinal side stripes. There was no V9? code for 70 GTX.


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Re: fender tag help needed [Re: 70gtx440dana] #1017917
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I have a 70 GTX - second line from bottom startss BL1 P6F8 EF8.... third line from bottom starts BL1 A34 B51... On the top line, in the V codes there is a V21 and a V6X, but NO V9* code, which I believe is for vinyl top. My question is - is this a two tone car Beige top and F8 bottom. I do not have the build sheet so I am coming to my experts. And did two tone cars receive the moldings seperating the top from the bottom?




Based on your tag codes above car appears to be: BL1 Beige (top and bottom) with green bucket seat interior, black hood stripes and black longitudinal side stripes. There was no V9? code for 70 GTX.






would be nice to see a pic of the tag but the EF8 is the upper door frame color. The vinyl top would be coded V1* ; V21 is the performance hood treatment and V6X is black longitudinal stripes.

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Re: fender tag help needed [Re: 70gtx440dana] #1017918
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Thanks 70GTX. So how would it show on the fender tag on a 70 car if it were to have a tan vinyl top? And doesn't the EF8 indicate the body color? And if not, what is the EF8 code? Help me with my confusion please

Re: fender tag help needed [Re: TrueTripleX] #1017919
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Thanks 70GTX. So how would it show on the fender tag on a 70 car if it were to have a tan vinyl top? And doesn't the EF8 indicate the body color? And if not, what is the EF8 code? Help me with my confusion please




As I said; the EF8 is the upper door frame color (inside the door above the door panel) and matches the interior color (F8). A tan vinyl roof would be V1T

If you post a pic of the whole tag, we'd be able to decode it in it's entirety for you.

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Re: fender tag help needed [Re: TrueTripleX] #1017920
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EF8 is the upper door frame color for your green interior.

Re: fender tag help needed [Re: RobX4406] #1017921
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the tag is difficult to read but here are the numbers
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N97 R11 V21 V6X 26
J45 M21 N41 N42 N95 N96
BL1 A34 B51 C21 C55 J25
BL1 P6F8 EF8 C09 175223
E87 D21 RS23 V0E 124923

Re: fender tag help needed [Re: TrueTripleX] #1017922
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So how would it show on the fender tag on a 70 car if it were to have a tan vinyl top?




No tan for the 1970 models, see http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/imag...Accents0001.jpg for what was available.

Re: fender tag help needed [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1017923
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Cool!! Another LA built "AIR GRABBER" 6bbl GTX with CA noise reduction & tips.

Is the original air cleaner with the car? What does it look like?

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Re: fender tag help needed [Re: TrueTripleX] #1017924
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the tag is difficult to read but here are the numbers
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N97 R11 V21 V6X 26
J45 M21 N41 N42 N95 N96
BL1 A34 B51 C21 C55 J25
BL1 P6F8 EF8 C09 175223
E87 D21 RS23 V0E 124923




Is that car out of Modesto by chance? There's been a BL1 V-code around here since the 70's & the owner has fallen on hard times so I wouldn't be surprised if it got sold....


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Re: fender tag help needed [Re: TrueTripleX] #1017925
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the tag is difficult to read but here are the numbers
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N97 R11 V21 V6X 26
J45 M21 N41 N42 N95 N96
BL1 A34 B51 C21 C55 J25
BL1 P6F8 EF8 C09 175223
E87 D21 RS23 V0E 124923




OK, here's my best shot. Someone will correct me if I've made any errors;

E87 - 440-6
D21 - 4spd
RS23 - GTX 2dr hrdtp
V - 440-6
0 - 1970
E - Los Angeles assy plant
124923 - VIN sequence number (24,923rd 1970 car off the line)
BL1 - Beige body color
P6 - premium buckets - vinyl
F8 - dark green interior
EF8 - Dark green upper door paint (interior)
C09 - December 9th, 1969 scheduled production date
175223 - Vehicle Order Number
BL1 - top (roof) paint, Beige
A34 - Super Trak Pak - 4.10 Dana
B51 - Power Brakes
C21 - Center Front Folding Armrest
C55 - Bucket Seats
J25 - variable speed wipers (required with E87 and N96)
M21 - Drip Rail Mouldings
N41 - Dual Exhaust
N42 - Bright Exhaust tips
N95 - emmissions control (California)
N96 - Fresh Air Hood
N97 - Noise Reduction Package (California)
R11 - AM radio
V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
V6X - Longitudinal Sport Stripe - Black
26 - 26" rad (required with A34)
End - End

Very cool car. The V code, N96 and A34 make it among the most desireable of all '70 V code B bodies IMO. I'm curious as to the cars condition and how close it currently is or will be to the fender tag? I imagine that many people would ditch the folding armrest in favor of a console and change the green interior to black but it would be very cool to see as-built.


Dave


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Re: fender tag help needed [Re: DPelletier] #1017926
06/22/11 02:25 PM
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the tag is difficult to read but here are the numbers
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N97 R11 V21 V6X 26
J45 M21 N41 N42 N95 N96
BL1 A34 B51 C21 C55 J25
BL1 P6F8 EF8 C09 175223
E87 D21 RS23 V0E 124923




OK, here's my best shot. Someone will correct me if I've made any errors;

E87 - 440-6
D21 - 4spd
RS23 - GTX 2dr hrdtp
V - 440-6
0 - 1970
E - Los Angeles assy plant
124923 - VIN sequence number (24,923rd 1970 car off the line)
BL1 - Beige body color
P6 - premium buckets - vinyl
F8 - dark green interior
EF8 - Dark green upper door paint (interior)
C09 - December 9th, 1969 scheduled production date
175223 - Vehicle Order Number
BL1 - top (roof) paint, Beige
A34 - Super Trak Pak - 4.10 Dana
B51 - Power Brakes
C21 - Center Front Folding Armrest
C55 - Bucket Seats
J25 - variable speed wipers (required with E87 and N96)
M21 - Drip Rail Mouldings
N41 - Dual Exhaust
N42 - Bright Exhaust tips
N95 - emmissions control (California)
N96 - Fresh Air Hood
N97 - Noise Reduction Package (California)
R11 - AM radio
V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
V6X - Longitudinal Sport Stripe - Black
26 - 26" rad (required with A34)
End - End

Very cool car. The V code, N96 and A34 make it among the most desireable of all '70 V code B bodies IMO. I'm curious as to the cars condition and how close it currently is or will be to the fender tag? I imagine that many people would ditch the folding armrest in favor of a console and change the green interior to black but it would be very cool to see as-built.


Dave




Nice job Dave! J45 should be hood pins.....J25 is 3 speed wipers. I would think with N96 the J25 should also be on the tag.


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Re: fender tag help needed [Re: 70gtx440dana] #1017927
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Very nice car. Interesting, beige exterior with green interior. I wonder how that would look

Re: fender tag help needed [Re: 70gtx440dana] #1017928
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Nice job Dave! J45 should be hood pins.....J25 is 3 speed wipers. I would think with N96 the J25 should also be on the tag.




Oops, thanks; that's what I get for going off memory and I guess I figured the 3spd wipers SHOULD be on there.

To the OP: you sure that says J45 and not J25?

Dave


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Re: fender tag help needed [Re: DPelletier] #1017929
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I see both J25 & J45

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my car:

_26 END
+ N97 R22 V21 V68 Y14 +
M21 N41 N42 N85 N95 N96
FJ5 A34 B51 C16 C55 J25
FJ5 P6XA TX9 204 095187
E87 D21 RS23 V0E 131247

Larry, We should compare notes. 440+6 4-speed 4.10 '70 GTX (US spec) = 136 built ---- how many made in & for CA?

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I see both J25 & J45




DOH!




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