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Caltracs and backhalfed axle?
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06/20/11 02:08 AM
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Do anyone use combo like backhalfed rear axle and Caltracs with monoleafs or everybody going automaticly to 4-link when backhalf their car?
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Re: Caltracs and backhalfed axle?
[Re: Georg]
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Personally I see no reason to use CalTracs if you're going to back half the car, I mean why would you?
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Re: Caltracs and backhalfed axle?
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Guitar Jones
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But if you back half it you've already cut it up.
I can see running CalTracs for not cutting the car up, I have them on my Duster, it's an original 340 4 speed car with the only option being the over the roof tape stripe.
Last edited by Guitar Jones; 06/20/11 10:12 AM.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Re: Caltracs and backhalfed axle?
[Re: Georg]
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06/20/11 04:14 PM
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Guitar Jones
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Yes there are very reasonable excuses not to use CalTracs.
1. They are OK on good tracks but hit and miss on marginal tracks. Mine would be very inconsistent in the late rounds at night. Same could be said for a very hot track, but on a well prepped track they worked great.
My four link goes down the track everytime regardless of the temp or time of day.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Re: Caltracs and backhalfed axle?
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no reason to back half the car.we run 1.2x 60 ft times with cal tracs and 29.5x10.5 tire.dead consistant every time...the car runs 8.90s also.
With what a traction controlled starting line limited turbo or a nitrous set up on a timer? Even my friends 3.9 V6 stocker Dakota has trouble from time to time. From personal experience I will tell you that CalTracs will never be as good or as consistent as a 4 link car, period. Sell the CalTracs, heck that whole setup is darn near $1000 here with the good shocks and buy a four link, you won't be sorry you did.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Re: Caltracs and backhalfed axle?
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car is n/a...we only pull 6 degres timing out on the hit for .2 sec...you gotta know how it works and you must have good front end travel.
I know how they work, I've had my Duster on the back bumper with them for 2 passes, third pass and it's on marbles. It's not the bars, it's the tracks. You must only run on very good tracks. Not all of us have that luxury.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Re: Caltracs and backhalfed axle?
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But if you back half it you've already cut it up.
I can see running CalTracs for not cutting the car up, I have them on my Duster, it's an original 340 4 speed car with the only option being the over the roof tape stripe.
Actually I didn't cut it up, its been that way since the early '70's and with as much tire as I run, its not an issue. With SS springs it was horrible. With mono's and caltrac's it leaves like a ladder bar car. No wind up, no lag, just gone.
On the other hand I have a G-code '72 Cuda I am working on, and it has the Caltrac's with mono's and stock wheel wells and I am strongly thinking of putting ladder bars on it. Smaller tire, I think ladders or 4-link is better.
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Re: Caltracs and backhalfed axle?
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car is n/a...we only pull 6 degres timing out on the hit for .2 sec...you gotta know how it works and you must have good front end travel.
I know how they work, I've had my Duster on the back bumper with them for 2 passes, third pass and it's on marbles. It's not the bars, it's the tracks. You must only run on very good tracks. Not all of us have that luxury.
what track do you race at?
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Re: Caltracs and backhalfed axle?
[Re: Georg]
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06/20/11 06:55 PM
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i would go with the 4 link when backhalfing just because it takes so much more fabrication, which is really fun. then you end up with a suspension that is ubber adjustable.
for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?
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Re: Caltracs and backhalfed axle?
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car is n/a...we only pull 6 degres timing out on the hit for .2 sec...you gotta know how it works and you must have good front end travel.
I know how they work, I've had my Duster on the back bumper with them for 2 passes, third pass and it's on marbles. It's not the bars, it's the tracks. You must only run on very good tracks. Not all of us have that luxury.
what track do you race at?
Mostly at Orlando Speed World, it's OK most times but others times, especially late at night it's not. That particular time I described was the Gamblers race at Silver Dollar after the division finals. I race some of the outlaw tracks too like Lakeland and CFRC been to Moroso, Bradenton, Gainseville many are nice tracks some not so.
I had to let out of it with the wheels in the air during the King of the Track night at Speed World one year, I was about to take out the tree and the motorcycle in the other lane. Car was fine up to that point but it was about 2am. Like I said on a good track they work, on a marginal track it's hit and miss.
Last edited by Guitar Jones; 06/20/11 07:00 PM.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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