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3.9 Magnum V-6 A-500 in early A-body #101395
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Has anyone installed the 3.9 Magnum with A-500 trans in a '65 Dart or similar early a-body? A friend is contemplating this swap but would like to have an idea what problem areas to look for.
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Dallas


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Re: 3.9 Magnum V-6 A-500 in early A-body [Re: MOBodyman] #101396
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well.....

1) you're on your own for engine mounts, the 3.9 doesn't have ears like an LA, just the magnum style 3-bolt pad.

2) if planning to carb it, you're choices are either the early 2bbl carb/tbi intake or the unobtanium MP 4bbl.

3) depending on how far forward you mount it, you may have a lot of tranny tunnel/tbar xmember hacking and whacking to fit an A500.

might want to search hotroddave's "super duper 273/318 gas mileage" thread, he was getting some impressive mileage (low 20's city, upper 20's hwy) from a well thought out 318/904lockup/2.76 rear. if you want OD, I'd look at changing the 904/2.76 with an A833OD/2.94 or 3.23 combo.


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Re: 3.9 Magnum V-6 A-500 in early A-body [Re: patrick] #101397
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Patrick I can't find my own thread, is it still here?


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Re: 3.9 Magnum V-6 A-500 in early A-body [Re: HotRodDave] #101398
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Personally, If I were to do a non-v8 swap into one of these cars i'd go with the neon SRT-4 Turbo 2.4 with the liberty 2wd 5-speed manual trans OR the AX-15 out of a dakota. It does require more work than the 3.9, but the payoff is bigger, much more power and likely better fuel mileage.


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Re: 3.9 Magnum V-6 A-500 in early A-body [Re: HotRodDave] #101399
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Quote:

Patrick I can't find my own thread, is it still here?




I couldn't find it in a search either.....I'd contact and admin, see if they can dig it up, it really should be in the tech archives.


1976 Spinnaker White Plymouth Duster, /6 A833OD
1986 Silver/Twilight Blue Chrysler 5th Ave HotRod **SOLD!***
2011 Toxic Orange Dodge Charger R/T
2017 Grand Cherokee Overland
2014 Jeep Cherokee Latitude (holy crap, my daughter is driving)
Re: 3.9 Magnum V-6 A-500 in early A-body [Re: HotRodDave] #101400
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Re: 3.9 Magnum V-6 A-500 in early A-body [Re: HotRodDave] #101401
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I appreciate the replies.
Thanks,
Dallas


2012 Rallye Redline Challenger, 1st new car!
2010 Ram 1500 4wd HEMI-hauler
2014 Dodge Dart-gas saver
4 projects and a bunch of parts cars, losing interest since buying the Challenger lol
1969 Dodge Coronet 500-'gonna fix 'er up someday!'
Re: 3.9 Magnum V-6 A-500 in early A-body [Re: MOBodyman] #101402
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I did a bit of preliminary research for this swap in my 65 Cuda.

If you were to mount the V6 so that the front of the block was in the same location as the V8 would have been then tunnel clearance for the A500 opens up alot.

However, I was never able to figure out if the oil pan would work with teh chassis. Didn't have any good dimensions to work from.

Of course adding a turbo, or two, to the V6 would fix the power problems and a nice Megasquirt setup would fix the factory computer problem.

Never got farther than that with it, no money for it.


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