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Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: chargervert] #1012607
06/14/11 09:05 PM 06/14/11 09:05 PM
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bad: The exhaust mainfold bolts going into the water jacket on the cylinder heads. With stock manifolds,the studs almost always come out with the nuts when removing them to change gaskets. With Headders the studs need to be removed to install them. This always causes a big coolant mess every time that the bolts are removed.



There is a fix, at least for me there is, when you have the heads off or in the car (if the studs come out), remove the old studs, replace them with shorter (grade 8) ones to where there is about 2 threads sticking past the nuts, then its easier to install the headers, they slip right on, no more coolant problems, I've done this a few times when installing BBs in my A bodies, Now i used FW headers, BUT, I had no problem getting shuamacker headers.

75 Duster, 451 10.87 @ 123.58 NA 97 Z28 6sp., 12.01 @ 115 on a 100 shot 71 Swinger. 360 magnum. 12.58 @ 105 78 cutlass, 469 BBC. 12.70 @ 108 on street tires. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2kqNmMfheU
Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: joedust451] #1012608
06/14/11 11:14 PM 06/14/11 11:14 PM
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bad: having to install points and condenser in early A bod slant six without removing the dist.

good : from late 50s on to what ever , all starting motors being interchangeable. take one off a /6 and put it on a 440.
Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: T2R9] #1012609
06/15/11 11:38 AM 06/15/11 11:38 AM
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How about having to remove the front bumper cover to replace a headlamp bulb on a Concord.



and Calibers I think too

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Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: NachoRT74] #1012610
06/15/11 12:02 PM 06/15/11 12:02 PM
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SKIS evaporator cores Service Engine Soon light

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Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: john55] #1012611
06/15/11 12:11 PM 06/15/11 12:11 PM
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I remember doing a water pump for a friend with a 94 Ram .Worse part was getting the upper factory squueze clamp off the top bypass hose with nothing for access.They left you the choice of working at it through the opening in the alum bracket.Or removing the entire alum bracket assembly
Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: Annie] #1012612
06/15/11 12:16 PM 06/15/11 12:16 PM
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I remember doing a water pump for a friend with a 94 Ram .Worse part was getting the upper factory squueze clamp off the top bypass hose with nothing for access.They left you the choice of working at it through the opening in the alum bracket.Or removing the entire alum bracket assembly



.....but, but, you have to remove the bracket thingy to get intake off to do the plenum cover anyway.

Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: Annie] #1012613
06/15/11 12:18 PM 06/15/11 12:18 PM
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Here is a good one many may not know. But on the old reduction gear starters when I would rebuild them Ma put a washer on end of the armature where the brushes go with 4 bent legs on it. It worked great when assembling the starter as the washer would hold the 4 brushes in place so you could slip the armature right in and the brushes would fall in place against the armature when it pushed the washer out. It really made it much easier when assembling it. Ron
Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: 383man] #1012614
06/15/11 12:27 PM 06/15/11 12:27 PM
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That was a genious feature, especially when most people are limited to just two hands. Usually.

Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: T2R9] #1012615
06/15/11 12:29 PM 06/15/11 12:29 PM
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How about having to remove the front bumper cover to replace a headlamp bulb on a Concord.



What? Really?

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Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: Magnumguy] #1012616
06/15/11 01:56 PM 06/15/11 01:56 PM
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I know the 300 is a little trickier to get lamps out than same year intrepid, but bumper cover can stay on car. May have to loosen upper end a bit.

Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: buildanother] #1012617
06/15/11 08:36 PM 06/15/11 08:36 PM
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that stupid screw in upper ball joint
Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: president61] #1012618
06/15/11 08:41 PM 06/15/11 08:41 PM
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Wasn't there a model that had the battery hidden behind an inner fender?
Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: Kern Dog] #1012619
06/15/11 08:48 PM 06/15/11 08:48 PM
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I still hate the ridiculous crimped-on steering shaft coupler cover...
Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1012620
06/15/11 09:10 PM 06/15/11 09:10 PM
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I still hate the ridiculous crimped-on steering shaft coupler cover...



ME TOO.... What a POS. I have pulled numerous steering boxes and/or steering columns and my success rate with these things is dismal.
Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: Kern Dog] #1012621
06/15/11 09:20 PM 06/15/11 09:20 PM
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THE GOOD;made it so we dont have to drive a brand ex. THE BAD;didnt make enough HEMI,S. when i could afford one i didnt want one,now i want one and cant afford it

Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: bonefish] #1012622
06/15/11 11:41 PM 06/15/11 11:41 PM
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The different bolt pattern on Slant Six, small block and Big block-Hemi bellhousings.

Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: Kern Dog] #1012623
06/15/11 11:42 PM 06/15/11 11:42 PM
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Wasn't there a model that had the battery hidden behind an inner fender?



My 2008 Avenger and her JS-body siblings are that way...

As said...big blocks were awesome! 4 bolt water pump, external oil pump, dry intake, front distributor, all great features!! All water pumps should be this way!! Whomever put the water pump behind a timing cover should be shot...

Engine interchangeability is great amongst Mopars, probably something that we take for granted, but remember when GM built 4 completely different V8 engines of the same size? At one time, Buick, Olds, Chevy and Pontiac all had 350 and 400 cubic inch engines, each of which were completely different from the others. At least a 383 Plymouth engine is the same as a Dodge 383, etc. Ford had at least 3 different 351s, a 352, a couple different 302s, etc. Even made 427, 428 and 429 engines all based off of different blocks!!!

JS

76 Dodge Adventurer Sport Power Wagon W100 318, 727, NP203 Fulltime 4x4 Russet Red
06 Jeep Commander Ltd 4x4, 5.7L Hemi, QuadraDrive II
06 Chrysler 300C AWD 5.7L Hemi
10 Mopar 10 Challenger R/T, #483/500, 5.7L HEMI
10 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd 4x4 5.7L HEMI
11 Dodge Ram 1500 LoneStar Quad Cab, 5.7L HEMI, Fulltime 4x4, Deep Cherry Red
16 Jeep Cherokee Limited 3.2L Pentastar V6, 9 Speed Torqueflite, 4x4, Black
Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: dOrk !] #1012624
06/15/11 11:48 PM 06/15/11 11:48 PM
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the good thing was they built a 69 road runner.the bad. where do i start.

Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: 70Cuda383] #1012625
06/16/11 02:41 AM 06/16/11 02:41 AM
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On cars with popout rear windows, the drainage system SUCKS. Not much of a good seal there so the rain just falls down the inside of the quarterpanel.
Re: The good and BAD things the Ma MoPar engineers did .... [Re: 68KillerBee] #1012626
06/16/11 06:50 AM 06/16/11 06:50 AM
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bought a 61 that had flat tires because owner couldnt get the lugs off.he said they were on way too tight.but only on one side.
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