Re: Jesel 440-1 paired rockers, what oiling?
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Spray bar here, no issues in 10 yrs.
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Re: Jesel 440-1 paired rockers, what oiling?
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It all depends on which block your using, or at least how its set up to oil the lifters.You can get inot fairly odd or expensive lifters if you need pushrod oiling in a block that isnt really set up for them.If its a race motor, the spray bars make it easy. Otherwise, the lifter oil holes in the block and lifter bodies will be a concern.Depends on how much you are willing to spend for lifters.
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Re: Jesel 440-1 paired rockers, what oiling?
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Different head but with the Jesel rockers on my B1m/c heads I set it up for PR oiling.... the Jesel and TD rockers were set up for PR oiling with the holes in the rockers to direct the oil to the bearings... just restrict the PR with a orifice
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Re: Jesel 440-1 paired rockers, what oiling?
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I think I have the best of both worlds. Spraybars for valve cooling, oil through the pushrods, with lifter oriface 90 degrees to the oil feed hole. A post by GOGREEN and another with a boosted motor talked about the need for PR oiling in high boost apps?
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Re: Jesel 440-1 paired rockers, what oiling?
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Pushrod oiling with Brian's (IMM) lifters that have the oiling holes in the lifter body offset to restrict oil.
Works good!
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Re: Jesel 440-1 paired rockers, what oiling?
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Who makes the valve covers or do you make them yourself?
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Re: Jesel 440-1 paired rockers, what oiling?
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spray bars on mine too. The cooling effect on the springs must work because my valve springs last a lot longer than I thought they would with a big roller cam.
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Re: Jesel 440-1 paired rockers, what oiling?
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Spray Bars on my wedge Cab. I ran standard Indy Oiling then I had the heads CNC ported and had them milled for the jesel stand and system. I couldnt stand to pay $400+ for the oiling spray bar system, so I set out and made my own... I ran this top end on a stock 499 short block, then built a real engine to put those on. Indy Maxx block... I dont know how many pass's over a period of several years it had, but my stuff looked great. I know some have trouble, but I think the Jesel Cup on the adjuster, and ball end to ball end pushrods is the best.
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Re: Jesel 440-1 paired rockers, what oiling?
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Who makes the valve covers or do you make them yourself? This s JMO.. but I have played with a lot of TD rockers but in a drag car I think the spray bar is a waste of oil. if you run(lets say 9 sec)then the springs should be able to handle the PR oiling that directs the oil to both sides of the rocker to lube the rocker and the left over to do any spring cooling... the single shaft oiling works very well but might need a restriction in the supply to the shaft(basically if yo have full time oiling you will) but the part time might want just a little more slot in the bearing to add oil.. spray bars by themself is asking for a shaft issue(lack of oil) and I dont think I would ever run 2 systems to oil(either PR and spray bars or shaft and PR and or spray bars)
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