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Re: fuel pump question/problem- help
[Re: Viol8r]
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06/06/11 12:25 PM
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Most likely vapor lock. Bad enough to strand you somewhere. Time to take a look at all your fuel line routing. Start insulating!
Doubt it's the routing- I've put 32,000 on her since I replaced all lines with SS as well as new tank. I check the venting though. Is it the consensus it's not the fuel pump?
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Re: fuel pump question/problem- help
[Re: OzHemi]
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06/06/11 01:10 PM
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What about the fuel pump push rod starting to wear perhaps.. 
Hmm- not sure if I've ever heard of that happening much. Going to let her sit for a while and see if it starts cold. Thinking maybe checkvalve in pump. If it won't start after being left sitting for a while I'm going to replace pump and fuel filter and see what happens.
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Re: fuel pump question/problem- help
[Re: CharlieB]
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06/06/11 01:43 PM
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3.25 is the correct length.
remember when you said honey, some day that car is gonna look so good in front of our house
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Re: fuel pump question/problem- help
[Re: CharlieB]
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06/06/11 06:08 PM
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OK tried restarting with a little gas directly to carb no go. Took off fuel filter plenty of gas, took off fuel pump full of gas as well, plus the fuel line fron the tank runs plenty of gas. SO I am going to take off the fuel pump push rod- see that it has an allen wrench screw type which I have but it appears to be in tight to the point it won't budge. Don't want to force anything - do I have to do something before hand other than loosen it. Can't find anything in the FSM dealing with it. Also, who sells a replacement. NAPA says no, local Dodge dealer gave me a couple of out of state dealers who claim to have them.
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Re: fuel pump question/problem- help
[Re: CharlieB]
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06/06/11 07:00 PM
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smell your gas to make sure it did not rupture and dump fuel into the oil pan! a few have done this to only kill the engine with gas in the oil  some of the new replacement rods had a problem of wear/mushrooming on the end so do some asking and home work for a replacement part  sure you didnt flood it pouring gas down the hole with an already vaporlocked engine 
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Re: fuel pump question/problem- help
[Re: scratchnfotraction]
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06/06/11 07:19 PM
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kind of lost here. In 4 years 32,000 miles never had a vaporlock problem- always started, including several starts/stops that night. After letting it sit overnight put a little gas in carb and it statred right up. Started it on and off several times and it started every time. Let it sit for 2 hours and it would not start- no gas at carb. Put a little gas in carb as before- would not start. Gas in filter/pump. I have replacements for both, but thought I might check pump push rod while I'm there. Can't seem to get rod to budge. I see YearOne has them, but want to remove check for wear first. Just can't get it out!!
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Re: fuel pump question/problem- help
[Re: CharlieB]
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06/06/11 07:32 PM
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rod should slide out if the plate and galley is open,may have mushroomed and not wanting to slide out of the block may want to make sure you not haveing a heat soak,gas perking problem with the ethel in the gas nowdays. could be flooding on shut down and heat soak,gas has a lower boil point now days and carbs are have a fit with it in the heat  good luck  and smell your oil for gas
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Re: fuel pump question/problem- help
[Re: CharlieB]
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06/06/11 07:34 PM
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What you're trying to loosen is just a pipe plug that covers the access hole for the pushrod. Hit it with some PB Blaster/penetrating oil.
Pushrods are also available from Mancini.
remember when you said honey, some day that car is gonna look so good in front of our house
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Re: fuel pump question/problem- help
[Re: CharlieB]
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06/06/11 07:55 PM
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Ch oil/filter & on the pipe plug if it's stubborn, w an Allen wrench in it hit it down vertical to shock it then switch Allen wrench ends in the plug if you can get the short leg of the Allen wrench in it & hit the long leg w a hammer rather than a slow push, to break it free
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Re: fuel pump question/problem- help
[Re: CharlieB]
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06/07/11 07:49 AM
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So if I understand it correctly I definetly need to replace the fuel pump push rod- replace oil and filter- I already have fuel pump and fuel filter so might as well do that. Any thing else- any damage to engine??
maybe maybe not on changing the rod,need to get it out and inspect it first.
pick up a filter and oil for a change while you have it down for repairs.
once you get the plug and rod out report back your findings.
if it checks ok,then start looking else where for the problem
gas in the oil could come from it perking/flooding then washing down past the rings to get to the oil pan.
IMO,thats next,rule out heat soak/gas perk/vapor lock once the fuel pump and supply check out good.
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