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Over heating .! #1007069
06/05/11 11:03 AM
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I have a fairly good built 440 bored .040 over Indy heads mild port work oil mods done and a solid lift cam & 1.6 roller rockers TTI step headers and a 727 trans with a boss hog 3200-3600 stall & 391 gears i have a big rad & fan shroud as seen in the picture but i don't have a clutch fan on it and running a 160 stat what could it be.???
Maybe timing. Or what can anyone offer some simple ideas.!


I ask these things cause i have a friend in NY that has a 500ci big block motor in a 69 dart that is a true 9 sec street driven car and he is running a slant six rad with a 160 stat & factory shroud & clutch fan and even on the hottest days it only get to 200 period.!

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Re: Over heating .! [Re: 67coronetman] #1007070
06/05/11 11:58 AM
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#1 is what speed does it overheat. What temp is it reaching? Overheating since built? timing/mixture in ballpark? I'd remove/check the stat for a quick/easy test & when you solve it I'd go to at least a 180 but that's a sep issue.


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Re: Over heating .! [Re: RapidRobert] #1007071
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that shroud looks like it would impede air flow at highway speed

Re: Over heating .! [Re: ademon] #1007072
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that shroud looks like it would impede air flow at highway speed



What temp is it running to? I would think a clutch fan with a factory shroud will work better.

Re: Over heating .! [Re: ademon] #1007073
06/05/11 12:30 PM
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that shroud looks like it would impede air flow at highway speed




BINGO! That shroud is too tight.


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Re: Over heating .! [Re: 67coronetman] #1007074
06/05/11 12:56 PM
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the fan blades needs to cut the plane of the shoud to pull air through the radiator. it will only swirl the air as is, and at cruising speed, it will block air from flowing through the radiator.

Re: Over heating .! [Re: ademon] #1007075
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I will check that but it will pull lots of air flow thru the radiator alot very good.!



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that shroud looks like it would impede air flow at highway speed




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Re: Over heating .! [Re: feets] #1007076
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To tight as how.? it has room around the fan and pulls air thru very hard so i am just frustarated.!


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that shroud looks like it would impede air flow at highway speed




BINGO! That shroud is too tight.




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Re: Over heating .! [Re: 67coronetman] #1007077
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When you're driving at highway speed lots of air passes through the radiator. If the shroud is too tight the air can't get through. That means air can't pick up heat from the radiator. The radiator gets hot and you overheat.


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Re: Over heating .! [Re: 67coronetman] #1007078
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7 blade clutch fan fixed My overheating

Re: Over heating .! [Re: feets] #1007079
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Ok how much room should be from the fan blades to the edge of the shroud.? This is my worst problem i have had with any car ever.


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Re: Over heating .! [Re: 67coronetman] #1007080
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Want the blades (not the tip to shroud clearance but front to rear depth) ~1/2-2/3 into the shroud but I say that's not it . what speed is it overheating (& how hot)


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Re: Over heating .! [Re: 67coronetman] #1007081
06/05/11 11:20 PM
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Yea I don't think is the shroud either, need more details about when it overheats.

Re: Over heating .! [Re: RapidRobert] #1007082
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I need to check something first i had forgot.! I had changed out the water pump and didn't even pay attention to the water pump blade direction.! I know that was real dumb.!




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Want the blades (not the tip to shroud clearance but front to rear depth) ~1/2-2/3 into the shroud but I say that's not it . what speed is it overheating (& how hot)




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Re: Over heating .! [Re: 67coronetman] #1007083
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1st thing to check is the thermostat. Especially this time of year if the car has sat a lot over the winter. I just got done replacing a Mr. Gasket high flow that was stuck closed in my 451.


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Re: Over heating .! [Re: StealthWedge67] #1007084
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Can you just pull the shroud off, run it and see what happens. That seems to me the quickest and cheapest place to start

Re: Over heating .! [Re: 67coronetman] #1007085
06/07/11 07:48 PM
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Well i took off the water pump and low & behold the blades where way to short & the angle was wrong so i purchased a new water pump and the blades where 1/2 longer & angle was the way it should be ran the car for 30 min in the drive way never got above 170 then drove it around and only got to 185 seems to be working good so far.!!




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I need to check something first i had forgot.! I had changed out the water pump and didn't even pay attention to the water pump blade direction.! I know that was real dumb.!




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Want the blades (not the tip to shroud clearance but front to rear depth) ~1/2-2/3 into the shroud but I say that's not it . what speed is it overheating (& how hot)







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