Any OOTB stealth head users here?
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Curious to see what real world expriences with Iron heads then bolting on stealths... I plan on Doing some porting but Might just go stock for now In other words tell me your stealth ootb stories!
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Re: Any OOTB stealth head users here?
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OOTB ports, but upgraded springs, retainers and locks. They're on a 512 with a solid roller cam, and 13.5:1 compression. Running 10.40s in a 3380lb Dart.
WHY diff springs, retainers and locks ?
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Re: Any OOTB stealth head users here?
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WHY diff springs, retainers and locks ?
Solid roller cam with .650 lift and 600lb open pressure.
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Re: Any OOTB stealth head users here?
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My brother is running them on a 10.5-1 383 with a voodoo 533 lift cam and they seem to work good. He doesnt have many miles on them but seem to make good power.
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Re: Any OOTB stealth head users here?
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i swapped from iron,906 heads,to 440 source. both are pocket ported and milled to 78cc. picked up about 1 1/2 tenths. i did fit a thinner cometic gasket to pop up the comp,10.4-10.8,due to thermal efficioncy(spelling) with more tuning,some weight reduction and suspension work i am now around 6 tenths faster i am still using the supplied springs retainers etc - but i am running a purple 509 cam shifting at 6000 trapping at 6300.these cams are easy on the valvetrain. i am looking to go to a solid flat tappet next year when springs retainers and locks will be replaced Source qualify their retainers to 510 lift
Tex
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Re: Any OOTB stealth head users here?
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Out of the box, on the car. Picked up 4/10ths low comp. 440 with a small mech cam. 11:50's in a 3600# car.
Very cool!!!
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Re: Any OOTB stealth head users here?
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WHY diff springs, retainers and locks ?
Solid roller cam with .650 lift and 600lb open pressure.
why go to the expense of a solid roller cam and run an ootb head?
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Re: Any OOTB stealth head users here?
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WHY diff springs, retainers and locks ?
Solid roller cam with .650 lift and 600lb open pressure.
why go to the expense of a solid roller cam and run an ootb head?
Why take the chance on breaking in a flat tappet these days? Plus the solid roller can't be beat for performance either. Plus I'm sure he will port the heads eventually.
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Re: Any OOTB stealth head users here?
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I changed springs,retainers,and locks on mine also.I run .588 solid with 4 speed.My machinist checked them back cut valves and cleaned them up a bit.Been 3 years street/and a few strip.No problems.Rocky
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Re: Any OOTB stealth head users here?
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Has anyone ever had issues with the valve guides? A buddy of mine has these heads on a 383 with 1.6 rockers and a hyd. cam. His lift is right at .600" of lift. He used the springs that came with the heads with the upgraded retainers and locks. After 20 passes the valve guides were pounded down the valve stems.
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Re: Any OOTB stealth head users here?
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ive never really seen tight guides though i ream them when i port them... out of the box they ream them from the port side up towards the valve top and sometimes there is a burr turned up above the guide which will restrict oil from getting in to lubricate teh valve/guide,,, ive told brandon about it and i believe he has fixed it with recent "batches" of heads
their retainers are std 7 degree retainers as used in the industry,, no problem there,, the locks are a hardened stamped 7 degree lock,, in most applications there wouldnt be an issue with a flat hyd cam or mild solid flat cams
jeff
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Re: Any OOTB stealth head users here?
[Re: moderncylinder]
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Fwiw my machinist has heard/seen some of the stealth 7deg locks Sink or"start" to pull through so we are going to change them During porting. I didnt know about the reamerin the guide. Good Thing to check
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