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No Left Turn signal. Help!! #1000572 05/26/11 11:11 PM 05/26/11 11:11 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 579 Wattsburg, Pa D Dr V OP mopar
Dr V OP mopar D Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 579 Wattsburg, Pa	Put the Hemi back in after the rebuild did nothing but move the column downward but disconnected nothing electrical. I have right side turn signal, lights and brakes. Both front and back on the right side. Left side turn signal is super rapid, doesnt light up green light on instr cluster and does not flash the tail light bulb or the front park lamp bulb. Lights, when on, work in all 4 corner. Flasher makes different noises at right and left positions so I replaced it and it fried a new Buss type but works as I described with the original one in it. What is going on here???? 69 1/2 A12 BEE 4 spd 1968 Charger 383 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 Survivor 2019 Redeye 2005 FORD GT Red/White 2017 Viper ACR Extreme Red/White 1979 Branco Red/Red 2018 Porsche GT3 Miami 1971 440+6 Cuda 4 speed V2 2020 Sebring Orange Vette 1979 Chevy Boogie Hippie Van

Re: No Left Turn signal. Help!! [Re: Dr V] #1000573 05/26/11 11:33 PM 05/26/11 11:33 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: Lights, when on, work in all 4 corner. Flasher makes different noises at right and left positions so I replaced it and it fried a new Buss type but works as I described with the original one in it. What is going on here???? To clarify as in park/tail lights on all 4 corners are good? which are a seperate circuit (small filaments) from the headlight sw. On the prob, sounds like there might b a dead short downstream from the left turn signal "out" circuit plus the large filaments that are supposed to get fire (left rear turn/brake) and (left front turn) are open. I'd go back to the dangling harness under the steering col & start checking for fire/continuity there & work downstream live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: No Left Turn signal. Help!! [Re: RapidRobert] #1000574 05/27/11 12:32 AM 05/27/11 12:32 AM
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,216 Under My Car Mopar_Country pro stock
Mopar_Country pro stock Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,216 Under My Car	Maybe a pinched wire when you bolted the column back up. Did you disturb a ground somewhere maybe. Just thinking out loud.

Re: No Left Turn signal. Help!! [Re: Mopar_Country] #1000575 05/27/11 02:42 AM 05/27/11 02:42 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,168 Vancouver, WA MoparMarq super stock
MoparMarq super stock Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,168 Vancouver, WA	Quote: Maybe a pinched wire when you bolted the column back up. Did you disturb a ground somewhere maybe. Just thinking out loud. Possibly. But from symptoms described, it sounds like a very small current is getting out (rapid flasher). Either pinched wire or perhaps the pin in the column harness connector is pulled out from the column repositioning. Put a 12V jumper wire on the light green in the harness side of the turn signal harness connector to verify power is getting to the bulbs of the dash, front, and rear assemblies. That rules out the harnesses, and narrows it down to the column side of the connector or (more likely) the turn signal switch.

Re: No Left Turn signal. Help!! [Re: MoparMarq] #1000576 05/27/11 09:02 AM 05/27/11 09:02 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 579 Wattsburg, Pa D Dr V OP mopar
Dr V OP mopar D Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 579 Wattsburg, Pa	Im gonna lower the column today to check for burn or pinches. Thanks Guys 69 1/2 A12 BEE 4 spd 1968 Charger 383 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 Survivor 2019 Redeye 2005 FORD GT Red/White 2017 Viper ACR Extreme Red/White 1979 Branco Red/Red 2018 Porsche GT3 Miami 1971 440+6 Cuda 4 speed V2 2020 Sebring Orange Vette 1979 Chevy Boogie Hippie Van

Re: No Left Turn signal. Help!! [Re: Dr V] #1000577 05/27/11 12:14 PM 05/27/11 12:14 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 9,312 SoCal 68HemiB master
68HemiB master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 9,312 SoCal	Quote: I'm gonna lower the column today to check for burn or pinches. Thanks Guys This doesn't change your attack. Just some words at the risk of stating the obvious for this sort of diagnosis: Keep in mind that the flasher unit in this generation car is nothing more than a very low capacity circuit breaker. When the normal load of the turn signal filaments pass through the bimetallic component of the flasher, it heats up and opens the circuit. Once open, it cools down and closes, completing the circuit again. This dance is finely-tuned to load: a. Too little load (bad filament/open circuit) and you get no blink. b. Too much load (dead short/trailer lights/extra teenager lights) and you get an excessively rapid blink. Down to just a blue car now.

Re: No Left Turn signal. Help!! [Re: 68HemiB] #1000578 05/27/11 02:54 PM 05/27/11 02:54 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,168 Vancouver, WA MoparMarq super stock
MoparMarq super stock Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,168 Vancouver, WA	Quote: b. Too much load (dead short/trailer lights/extra teenager lights) and you get an excessively rapid blink. Good point. A safer way to check for no short to ground is remove the bulbs from the front and rear sockets, remove the dash turn signal socket from the dash frame, THEN test for continuity with volt/ohmmeter between the light green wire pin on the dash side of the turn signal harness and ground. If there is continuity (resistance = 0), there is a short somewhere in the harness between the turn signal harness connector and the ends, where the bulbs are. What to do? One method may be to disconnect the forward light harness (at the bulkhead connector) to see if the problem goes away. Check turn signals both directions, to see if they flash at the same rate; load will be different without the fronts hooked up. Then try the rear light harness at the left kick panel connector to see if it goes away. If the rear running lights and brake lights work properly, it's doubtful the rear light harness is shorted. If the problem is still there, it's likely in the dash harness somewhere. That's as far as my thinking goes at this point...

Re: No Left Turn signal. Help!! [Re: MoparMarq] #1000579 05/27/11 05:12 PM 05/27/11 05:12 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 579 Wattsburg, Pa D Dr V OP mopar
Dr V OP mopar D Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 579 Wattsburg, Pa	Found it. I took down the metal brace for the column and found the bright green wire coming out of the turn signal switch flattened out and a piece of the bare wire was touching the frame. I reinsulated it and replaced the column brace without rushing. All is fine. Thanks again. 69 1/2 A12 BEE 4 spd 1968 Charger 383 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 Survivor 2019 Redeye 2005 FORD GT Red/White 2017 Viper ACR Extreme Red/White 1979 Branco Red/Red 2018 Porsche GT3 Miami 1971 440+6 Cuda 4 speed V2 2020 Sebring Orange Vette 1979 Chevy Boogie Hippie Van

Re: No Left Turn signal. Help!! [Re: Dr V] #1000580 05/27/11 07:04 PM 05/27/11 07:04 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 9,312 SoCal 68HemiB master
68HemiB master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 9,312 SoCal	Good to hear that things are solved. And thanks for posting back the results. There's nothing more annoying than offering suggestions, only to have the thread trail off into the abyss, with no results posted. Sure makes me less likely to offer anything. Down to just a blue car now.

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