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Re: I need a Decent inexpensive 440 recipe
[Re: 73rrak]
#1000296
05/28/11 02:14 PM
05/28/11 02:14 PM
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,221
Branson, Mo.
joedust451
super gas
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super gas
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,221
Branson, Mo.
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Should be very easy getting 400 rwhp, my guess, around 470-480 at the flywheel, very easy to do with a 440, This can be done with factory pistons & bolt-ons/cam change on the pre 71 short blocks, if not, this is what i'd do for a later block.
.030", TRW 2355s, block prep.
Cleaned up 906 or 452 heads (decent VJ) no porting
XE274H or 275HL cam & springs
True roller chain set
TRW oil pump, doesn't need to be high volume.
1.7/8" headers full length, or even Shoe-Mack.
2.1/2" exhaust.
SD intake or RPM.
750 3310 vs. only because of the gears/converter your useing.
Good ignition with a nice adj. timing curve in dist..
The car should easialy get into the 12s in a B body. & be VERY street friendly, i'd run pump premium.
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Re: I need a Decent inexpensive 440 recipe
[Re: RUNCHARGER]
#1000299
05/28/11 06:17 PM
05/28/11 06:17 PM
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,221
Branson, Mo.
joedust451
super gas
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super gas
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Branson, Mo.
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If you want an honest 400HP at the tires I'm not seeing it using stock iron heads with stock valve sizes etc.
If you want to use stock heads without spending $2k on porting and preparing them you might as well do a quick valve job on them and put nitrous on top that's the only way I see 400HP at the tires.
If you want to make 400HP on the motor the cheapest way there will involve a set of Edelbrock heads a good hydraulic cam and a stockish shortblock with 9.5 or 10.5-1 compression measured.
Your torker intake is wrong for a 2000 convertor, 3.55 gears and 4000lbs. your 800 DP is also wrong for those components.
I would not use the Six Pack replacement pistons as suggested many times above. You can use them but for $100 more invest in a lighter set of pistons and your engine will live longer.
If it was me I'd build a stock shortblock except for something like Diamond flattops. I'd sell the Torker, 800 and all those other BB cast iron. Then I'd get a set of Edelbrock heads and a used Holley Street Dominator intake or an Edelbrock dual plane. When I had all of that stuff figured out I'd come on here for a camshaft and carb. recommendation. (and when I think about it, I'm not so sure there is a camshaft that will make 400HP at the rear wheels and will work with a stock stroke 440 and a 2000RPM convertor).
And like I say the other way is to ball hone it, get a valve job done, stick in new bearings, use the Torker, and put a nitrous plate under the 800.
Sheldon
You can make 400rwhp easy with factory iron heads, I made 500 fwhp with a set, he wants to build it on the cheap, This cannot be done with high priced pistons & eddy heads.
Yeah, installing a plate kit is the cheapest.
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with JOEDUST451,on the cheap,since you have a good,usable set of 452's, this combo would be the cheapest route. even with the purchase of carb/intake/cam, should come in under your budget......and still scare the wife. 