Then sublime is the color I'm thinking of. Also, a note about the chassis/car construction. We have built just about everything in house with the exception of some brackets and tabs. Even some of those were made here, but resemble commercially available stuff. There was no kit, every tube came off the rack and was bent here, and the chassis is our design, based off some of the best features of Mcamis, Bickel, and RJ. Also the chassis is in mock-up mode, and alot of the tube and misc. haven't been done yet as I like to be sure it's all going to come together before I go to extremes. Thanks for the reply's and kind words.