I appreciate that, but I wasn't asking whether anyone thinks I have recourse with the guy, I was asking if any experienced guys can tell by my blurry cam shots here whether I got anything near what I was told they were (trying this first before spending more money to verify). I'm a big boy and will live with whatever the outcome. Whether they are decent heads or not will depend if I spend more money on a project, so having them flowed is as much to see where I'm at now as anything.