I've had some personal dealings with these guys. Remember the Challenger they tried to piece together at the Nats and then drive to Woodward? It damn near killed me when I was helping to unload it off the top rack of a semi transporter. Later that week... I found myself standing by ready to step in when the Roadkill guys and the Doug Foley guys got into a standoff in the pavilion at National Trail Raceway that was on the cusp of getting really ugly. Ah, the memories...