I had a friend interested in them a little while back. We had a customer come to work with one needing a battery so I asked him how he liked it. He was not a fan at all, he actually got mad talking about how much he hated it lol. They went from a liberty to the commander for the size and were not happy. He said whenever something went wrong he found x amount of people online with the same problem, like it was purposely following a checklist of failures.