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why spend your money twice ? get 180 at least. with the 180 you can do rollbars, cages ect. the 140 is to light [/quote

ABSOLUTELY. I started with a Hobart Handler 115v mig and hated it every time I used it. I have since upgraded to a Millermatic 180 with a spool gun and my only regret is that I didn't do this sooner. PLUS the new Miller has autoset which works beautifully. I can weld alum. from 18ga. to 1/4" and mild steel from 24ga. to 5/16". You get a MIG & TIG and the cost for the 180 and spool gun was $975 and it will most likely be the last machine I will ever need to buy. If you can afford the $ don't waste your time with the inferior welders.