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Re: 1966 Satellite, Hemi 4spd [Re: gtx6970] #3176545
09/19/23 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by gtx6970
I've gone over it a few times.

A local guy here is interested.

And most of what I see is minor restoration errors .mainly stuff painted over.


99% of which are easy to correct.

I've told this guy be prepared to spend $1000 on any car he buys to fix details.


Better double that and add a zero unless he's doing it all himself even the it could be 20K twocents

Re: 1966 Satellite, Hemi 4spd [Re: TJP] #3176573
09/20/23 08:09 AM
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I was at a recent car show here in Michigan (Frankenmuth, MI) which has turned into a huge show. Saw at least two (think it was actually three) '66-'67 Hemi Coronets there alone. One was an all original one from Canada that the guy had brought to the show. Super low miles, all original paint. Talked to the guy for a while (I would guess in his 70's) and he said he has more at home in Canada. Is it really that hard to find one of these?


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Re: 1966 Satellite, Hemi 4spd [Re: oldjonny] #3176583
09/20/23 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by oldjonny
Is it really that hard to find one of these?


Issue is finding a solid clean car that reasonable money AND still in his price range. And still ck a lot of the boxes this man wants for options.
This Satellite cks just about ALL his want boxes , for options , color , price etc etc

I talked to a previous owner of the Satellite last nite and he verified the car is real, believed to be all original drivetrain. But its an older build. He feels like most of the trim needs replaced or professionally redone at a minimum. The paint is at least 30 years old and is showing its age in person. Thus feels its a mid $50s price point car at best . He wasnt aware of any stains in the headliner so thats remains an unknown. And its probably been 5 years or more since he has seen the car in person. So a lot can change in the time.



I have him thinking about a semi local Hemi Coronet. It just isn't the ideal car. ,,,,,, BUT might ck enough boxes to allow him to scratch the hemi car itch.

Re: 1966 Satellite, Hemi 4spd [Re: oldjonny] #3176982
09/21/23 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by oldjonny
Its at a dealer. I don't need to see anymore .



As always, each and every car stands( or doesn’t stand) on its own merit.
For sale by private party doesn’t make it a good car, nor does by dealer make it a bad car.
Any expensive old car should be checked out by a 3rd party qualified to do so.
As a dealer myself, with an excellent reputation, I kinda get sick of people throwing a stupid blanket statement like the above out there.
Anybody who personally knows me, wouldn’t question my integrity, why question someone else’s you likely know nothing about.


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Re: 1966 Satellite, Hemi 4spd [Re: B3422W5] #3176984
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Originally Posted by B3422W5
Originally Posted by oldjonny
Its at a dealer. I don't need to see anymore .



As always, each and every car stands( or doesn’t stand) on its own merit.
For sale by private party doesn’t make it a good car, nor does by dealer make it a bad car.
Any expensive old car should be checked out by a 3rd party qualified to do so.
As a dealer myself, with an excellent reputation, I kinda get sick of people throwing a stupid blanket statement like the above out there.
Anybody who personally knows me, wouldn’t question my integrity, why question someone else’s you likely know nothing about.


Everyone is allowed an opinion. I stand by mine.


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Re: 1966 Satellite, Hemi 4spd [Re: oldjonny] #3176987
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Originally Posted by oldjonny
Originally Posted by B3422W5
Originally Posted by oldjonny
Its at a dealer. I don't need to see anymore .



As always, each and every car stands( or doesn’t stand) on its own merit.
For sale by private party doesn’t make it a good car, nor does by dealer make it a bad car.
Any expensive old car should be checked out by a 3rd party qualified to do so.
As a dealer myself, with an excellent reputation, I kinda get sick of people throwing a stupid blanket statement like the above out there.
Anybody who personally knows me, wouldn’t question my integrity, why question someone else’s you likely know nothing about.


Everyone is allowed an opinion. I stand by mine.



Last two Mopars I have bought( and at 68 years old I have had many, starting with a 69 GTS I bought as a junior in high school in 1972) were both from private parties.
71 Duster I bought, guy told me it had a 340 in it, it didn’t, had a 318. In fairness to him, I don’t think he knew. It was represented to him as having a 340 in it when he purchased it at Carlisle several years before I bought it from him.
And my current car( I will die with this one) guy told me it had a 340 stroker in it. It didn’t, stock stroke 360 was in it. And he was most definitely a liar.
Again, every car, no matter who has it, needs looked at by someone the potential buyer trusts. If it checks out as a good car, it’s a good car, if it doesn’t, it doesn’t. It’s pretty simple really.

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69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, low 10.30’s 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.56 at 104.17



Re: 1966 Satellite, Hemi 4spd [Re: B3422W5] #3177040
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My experience has been the performance car dealers sell on consignment and jack the prices way up. If you don't you are one of the few.

Re: 1966 Satellite, Hemi 4spd [Re: stumpy] #3177074
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Originally Posted by stumpy
My experience has been the performance car dealers sell on consignment and jack the prices way up. If you don't you are one of the few.


I have nothing to do with performance cars, we are a Subaru specialist..lol
Regards consignment dealers, often times( but certainly not always) the reason prices are out of line can be because the consigned is overly proud of what he has, price wise.
As the dealer has no money tied up in a consignment, they do try to make it worthwhile to fool with. If it sits around and rots no skin in the game
It’s makes one wonder why such people don’t try to get rid of cars they overprice themselves.
Sometimes, I think such dealers should pass on such cars that don’t have any valid meat left on the bone.

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69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, low 10.30’s 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.56 at 104.17



Re: 1966 Satellite, Hemi 4spd [Re: B3422W5] #3177093
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Originally Posted by B3422W5
Originally Posted by stumpy
My experience has been the performance car dealers sell on consignment and jack the prices way up. If you don't you are one of the few.


I have nothing to do with performance cars, we are a Subaru specialist..lol
Regards consignment dealers, often times( but certainly not always) the reason prices are out of line can be because the consigned is overly proud of what he has, price wise.
As the dealer has no money tied up in a consignment, they do try to make it worthwhile to fool with. If it sits around and rots no skin in the game
It’s makes one wonder why such people don’t try to get rid of cars they overprice themselves.
Sometimes, I think such dealers should pass on such cars that don’t have any valid meat left on the bone.


You may be an exception to the rule but Classic car dealers in general have a bad rep and I've seen many examples of why in the last 20 -25 years. All were overpriced and several not even safe to be driven on public roads due to rusted frames/unibody and a multitude of other reasons etc.
You ask why people don't sell it themselves?
1. Because they know its a POS and don't want any comebacks. This is also why many are sold through auctions.
2. They consignors make outrageous claims on the cars value
3. They don't want to be bothered with listing, calls, emails etc.
Attached are a few pic's of a unibody structure that was Bondo'ed over and covered with bedliner material. Another had duct tape over the hole(s) covered again with bedliner spray bomb. The real favorite is thick undercoating
My hat's off to you for being legit but I'll bet the cars you sell are not the norm. beer

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Re: 1966 Satellite, Hemi 4spd [Re: TJP] #3177262
09/22/23 04:47 PM
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I don't care if its dealer or private seller.
All can sell junk. All can sell top shelf stuff ( pun intended)


If either one has the car I want . I'm a potential buyer if price is right

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