How often you rebuild your carb? When do you know?
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05/14/18 11:18 PM
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I last rebuilt my carb about 5 years/12,000 miles ago.. is it time to do it again? How do you judge when it's time for a carb rebuild?
Got the car out of winter storage last week, hard to start, but it fired with start gas and ran well. Had Stabil in it. Took it for an hour drive, stopped to admire the view.. Got back to the car 30 minutes later.. it didn't sink in that I was smelling a strong gas odor.. I cranked it over, didn't fire up, until the battery went dead. Had to get a jump to start, but it did fire in about 10 seconds.
Drove it back to storage.
I'll have a closer look at it tomorrow, but I wonder if some of the jets, the tip of the float meter, accelerator pump seals, etc are just old and flowing way more fuel than it should... flooding the engine?
Thanks, - Art
65 Satellite hardtop 361/4bbl console 727 2.76 67 Satellite convert 383/2bbl column 727 3.23 67 Lancia Fulvia Sport 1.3 Zagato. Alloy body, 1.3L V4 DOHC 4-spd 67 Lancia Fulvia Rallye 1.3. Alloy panel, 1.3L V4 DOHC 4-spd 71 Alfa Romeo GT Junior 1300 Zagato, 1.3L 4cyl DOHC hemi 5-spd 82 Alfa Romeo GTV6 2.5L SOHC hemi V6 5-spd transaxle 75 Maserati Bora US spec 4.9L DOHC hemi V8 5-spd ZF 77 Maserati Khamsin Euro spec 4.9L DOHC hemi V8 5-spd ZF 07 Aston Martin DB9 6.0L DOHC V12 6spd transaxle
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Re: How often you rebuild your carb? When do you know?
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05/15/18 12:24 AM
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Probably needs it. I don't know if it's the modern gas or the quality of the materials in the rebuild kits nowadays, but mine needs it about every 4 years to really run well.
Seems like the accelerator pump diaphragm is the first thing to harden up and not give a good squirt like it should, that's when I know it's time.
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Re: How often you rebuild your carb? When do you know?
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Generally a rebuild in the past was for leaking gaskets, and often for the accelerator pump losing it shot ability about 10 yrs max for a daily driver...but with today's gas being highly evaporate, less use of our vehicles, it seems 5 yrs is the max you might want to let a carb go before it needs just a general overhaul and cleansing to freshen gaskets and hardened/worn rubber components along with deposits A little Marvel Mystery Oil... A little 110 Leaded... A little Sta-Bil... Drained for the winter... Haven't been in the carb in well over 5 years...
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Re: How often you rebuild your carb? When do you know?
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05/15/18 01:17 AM
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When was the last time you changed the fuel filter? About 1990. :-) Rebuild? About 4 or 5 years ago. Didn't fix the problem, and yes it looked great inside. One of the muffler had rusted enough inside to have a flap of metal close off the pipe when I accelerated, causing a serious lack of power. New muffs under life time warranty fixed the problem.
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Re: How often you rebuild your carb? When do you know?
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05/15/18 10:01 AM
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The time to have looked at your carb was right then and there to determine if it was leaking fuel out some where it should not. I go in the carb on my 64 when ever it needs as it will not run right if I don't. new fuel filter EVERY year is a must. So far the Plymouths carb is working well...but i've only taken the car out once. Is'nt that part of the experience of owning/driving a "classic" car? I don't realy think theres any hard and fast rule when to rebuild a carb. When it needs it that's when you do it.
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Re: How often you rebuild your carb? When do you know?
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every 4 years I get rough acceleration and choppy idle; rebuild fixes it- basically the plunger disintegrates sitting in that gas.
Of course it's a carter 2barrel, so I can do it in about 20 minutes.
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Re: How often you rebuild your carb? When do you know?
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Thanks guys, I store my cars with a good shot of fresh engine oil in the accelerator pump cylinder to keep it soft.. but nothing lasts forever.. Funny how I recall rebuilding it, twice already, feels like yesterday, but I checked my receipts and 7 years ago was the last time! Whoa.. The time to have looked at your carb was right then and there to determine if it was leaking fuel out some where it should not. Yeah, I totally agree.... it wasn't until after I had secured a jump and was on my way (had an important meeting that had me focussed on that) .. and I slowed my brain down enough to ponder what might have happened... that's when I recalled the smell of gas was stronger than usual.. and I'm like "OK, it's probably the carb." I haven't had a chance to pull it back out of storage to check it all, but yeah - it'll give it a full regular tune up with all filters, gap the plugs, chassis lube... I'm even running points in it still.. I flushed the fluids already. Cheers, - Art
65 Satellite hardtop 361/4bbl console 727 2.76 67 Satellite convert 383/2bbl column 727 3.23 67 Lancia Fulvia Sport 1.3 Zagato. Alloy body, 1.3L V4 DOHC 4-spd 67 Lancia Fulvia Rallye 1.3. Alloy panel, 1.3L V4 DOHC 4-spd 71 Alfa Romeo GT Junior 1300 Zagato, 1.3L 4cyl DOHC hemi 5-spd 82 Alfa Romeo GTV6 2.5L SOHC hemi V6 5-spd transaxle 75 Maserati Bora US spec 4.9L DOHC hemi V8 5-spd ZF 77 Maserati Khamsin Euro spec 4.9L DOHC hemi V8 5-spd ZF 07 Aston Martin DB9 6.0L DOHC V12 6spd transaxle
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Re: How often you rebuild your carb? When do you know?
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The update on the carb situation;
I yanked the whole 4bbl AVS and intake off the '67 Sat and replaced it with the original Carter 2bbl and intake... freshly rebuilt and it runs better than ever... fires right up and holds a smooth idle, even cold after sitting a coupe days.
I rebuilt the AVS, it didn't *look* bad.. but it's ready to go on the '65 Satellite in the next week or so...
Cheers, - Art
65 Satellite hardtop 361/4bbl console 727 2.76 67 Satellite convert 383/2bbl column 727 3.23 67 Lancia Fulvia Sport 1.3 Zagato. Alloy body, 1.3L V4 DOHC 4-spd 67 Lancia Fulvia Rallye 1.3. Alloy panel, 1.3L V4 DOHC 4-spd 71 Alfa Romeo GT Junior 1300 Zagato, 1.3L 4cyl DOHC hemi 5-spd 82 Alfa Romeo GTV6 2.5L SOHC hemi V6 5-spd transaxle 75 Maserati Bora US spec 4.9L DOHC hemi V8 5-spd ZF 77 Maserati Khamsin Euro spec 4.9L DOHC hemi V8 5-spd ZF 07 Aston Martin DB9 6.0L DOHC V12 6spd transaxle
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