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Brand new steering box

Posted By: boydsdodge

Brand new steering box - 08/08/21 01:42 PM

I just found this steering box through a discussion on ForCbodiesonly.com it is from BuyAutoParts, I don't have anything to do with the company selling, just really curious on a new box for our Mopars.
I am posting this here to see if anyone here has tried one. I would if it was up here in Canadian funds.

https://www.forcbodiesonly.com/mopar-forum/threads/steering-gear-box-choices.66084/

https://www.buyautoparts.com/buynow/82-00475_an?utm_campaign=4142120_Sovrn+Commerce+%28formerly+Viglink+Inc.%29&utm_source=cj&utm_medium=aff&utm_content=4142120_Sovrn+Commerce+%28formerly+Viglink+Inc.%29&utm_term=12659908&cjevent=20b3073bf84b11eb83a302f00a82b82d
Posted By: Moparite

Re: Brand new steering box - 08/08/21 02:11 PM

Wonder how you hook up the lines? I only see one port so where is the return?

https://www.buyautoparts.com/buynow/82-00475_an
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: Brand new steering box - 08/08/21 09:16 PM

Sold by Rockauto too. Possibly made by (or for) Lares.

I can’t believe they casted a new housing for this.

It must be based off a newer production steering box.


One posted on FABO and has issues…. Whine and tightness.

https://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/threads/tight-ps-gearbox.497139/#post-1973548110

I searched Lares… and they are based out of Minneapolis. They claim this is a more modern box. Also significant they sell pumps, pump valves, steering gear nut and washer, high pressure fitting adapters, etc

http://catalog.larescorp.com/select/Dodge/Challenger/1971/

And get this… they are selling a T/A steering box. Odd since all that was was increased feel and different end stops (to accommodate longer pitman sweep).

Posted By: 68rrunner

Re: Brand new steering box - 08/09/21 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by autoxcuda
Sold by Rockauto too. Possibly made by (or for) Lares.

I can’t believe they casted a new housing for this.

It must be based off a newer production steering box.


One posted on FABO and has issues…. Whine and tightness.

https://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/threads/tight-ps-gearbox.497139/#post-1973548110

I searched Lares… and they are based out of Minneapolis. They claim this is a more modern box. Also significant they sell pumps, pump valves, steering gear nut and washer, high pressure fitting adapters, etc

http://catalog.larescorp.com/select/Dodge/Challenger/1971/

And get this… they are selling a T/A steering box. Odd since that was increased feel and different end stops (to accommodate longer pitman sweep).



So Borgeson got away form the welded casings? All cast now?
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: Brand new steering box - 08/10/21 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by 68rrunner
Originally Posted by autoxcuda
Sold by Rockauto too. Possibly made by (or for) Lares.

I can’t believe they casted a new housing for this.

It must be based off a newer production steering box.


One posted on FABO and has issues…. Whine and tightness.

https://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/threads/tight-ps-gearbox.497139/#post-1973548110

I searched Lares… and they are based out of Minneapolis. They claim this is a more modern box. Also significant they sell pumps, pump valves, steering gear nut and washer, high pressure fitting adapters, etc

http://catalog.larescorp.com/select/Dodge/Challenger/1971/

And get this… they are selling a T/A steering box. Odd since that was increased feel and different end stops (to accommodate longer pitman sweep).



So Borgeson got away form the welded casings? All cast now?


Yes, Borgenson went all cast.

But this Lares box doesn’t appear to be that same casting. Not a lot of pictures of the Lares box though.
Posted By: boydsdodge

Re: Brand new steering box - 08/11/21 06:02 PM

Steve, you mentioned on FABO that the cure for the Borgeson box noise is an inline reducer.
Could you give some details on the cure?
I installed two boxes on a clients car and he wouldn't live with it, so out they came. Felt great tho.
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: Brand new steering box - 08/11/21 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by boydsdodge
Steve, you mentioned on FABO that the cure for the Borgeson box noise is an inline reducer.
Could you give some details on the cure?
I installed two boxes on a clients car and he wouldn't live with it, so out they came. Felt great tho.


I have no first hand experience with the Borgenson box.

On FABO, members have reported adding valves. I think from Peter Bergman.
Posted By: DGS

Re: Brand new steering box - 08/12/21 06:50 AM

The same box is sold as Cardone 97-6542GB - but much cheaper than the Buy Auto Parts box (also new and not rebuilt) - ~$300 vs. $582!

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cardone-97-6542GB-New-Steering-Gear/989548275
Posted By: autoxcuda

Re: Brand new steering box - 08/12/21 01:46 PM

Read here:

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2571449/all/borgeson-steering-box.html

DGS has some great input as others.
Posted By: AndyF

Re: Brand new steering box - 08/15/21 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by autoxcuda
Originally Posted by boydsdodge
Steve, you mentioned on FABO that the cure for the Borgeson box noise is an inline reducer.
Could you give some details on the cure?
I installed two boxes on a clients car and he wouldn't live with it, so out they came. Felt great tho.


I have no first hand experience with the Borgenson box.

On FABO, members have reported adding valves. I thing Peter Berbamn


I installed a Borgenson box in my Coronet in the last update. Sure works nice. Now I can actually drive the car at low speed and maneuver it in tight spots such as in my shop. I used a late model Corvette PS pump and it doesn't make any noise.

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Posted By: 68rrunner

Re: Brand new steering box - 08/16/21 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by AndyF
Originally Posted by autoxcuda
Originally Posted by boydsdodge
Steve, you mentioned on FABO that the cure for the Borgeson box noise is an inline reducer.
Could you give some details on the cure?
I installed two boxes on a clients car and he wouldn't live with it, so out they came. Felt great tho.


I have no first hand experience with the Borgenson box.

On FABO, members have reported adding valves. I thing Peter Berbamn


I installed a Borgenson box in my Coronet in the last update. Sure works nice. Now I can actually drive the car at low speed and maneuver it in tight spots such as in my shop. I used a late model Corvette PS pump and it doesn't make any noise.


Andy-
Side note question...
Where'd ya get those valve covers?
Posted By: AndyF

Re: Brand new steering box - 08/16/21 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by 68rrunner


Andy-
Side note question...
Where'd ya get those valve covers?


Made them.

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Posted By: 68rrunner

Re: Brand new steering box - 08/16/21 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by AndyF
Originally Posted by 68rrunner


Andy-
Side note question...
Where'd ya get those valve covers?


Made them.


When is the next run? I'll be buying the CNP stuff like you did. I'd love a set.
Posted By: AndyF

Re: Brand new steering box - 08/16/21 10:57 PM

I don't plan on making anymore valve covers. I sent the CAD file to a guy in NC who was building billet covers for Ford and GM engines. He was going to make a production run of Mopar BB covers but his business went sideways and I don't think his shop is still open. So I'm not sure what happened with the files. I do know that I never got paid for the design.
Posted By: 72Challenger

Re: Brand new steering box - 08/17/21 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by 68rrunner
Originally Posted by AndyF
Originally Posted by 68rrunner


Andy-
Side note question...
Where'd ya get those valve covers?


Made them.


When is the next run? I'll be buying the CNP stuff like you did. I'd love a set.


+2 as well ...
Posted By: metallicareload

Re: Brand new steering box - 08/19/21 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by 72Challenger
Originally Posted by 68rrunner
Originally Posted by AndyF
Originally Posted by 68rrunner


Andy-
Side note question...
Where'd ya get those valve covers?


Made them.


When is the next run? I'll be buying the CNP stuff like you did. I'd love a set.


+2 as well ...


+3 me as well drive
Posted By: migsBIG

Re: Brand new steering box - 08/31/21 06:28 AM

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+2 as well ... [/quote]

+3 me as well drive [/quote]

+4 and I would buy a few sets. I currently bought these are they were close to what I wanted, but yours is pure ART!

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