AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360

Posted By: RAMM

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 01/21/13 01:00 PM

Bryce nice results. Can you fix your average at the bottom of the columns-It looks like it is using the median method and not the sum divided by total points method. Do you think the cam is what limited peak power at 6200 rpm? How were you circulating water without turning the pump in the video? Oh and you should sell me that X-celerator, I could use it for my own cratekiller program. J.Rob

Posted By: 440W8 Duster

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 01/21/13 02:36 PM

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What rockers are those?
And how much for those heads?

Those are Erson roller rockers

Posted By: Streetwize

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 01/21/13 02:38 PM

I can't wait for nice weather an the tracks to open back up to test the Airwolfs on the 414.

Probably need to jet it up over the old SDSS Stage 2's, really looking forward to the spring. They are definately a super nice set of SB heads, I'd like to see bryce work up a set with an offset rocker and the pushrod pinch either eliminated or tubed, if they flow this good with a standard rocker they could be even that much more awesome! I'll offer these up as the test mules since they did so great the last (633 horse 408) time

For anybody who has any reservations about the overseas quality of the castings.....DON'T. the quality is actually as good or Better than any domestic castings I've seen and everything bolts up and sealed up perfectly.

Posted By: sshemi

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 01/21/13 03:04 PM

Hughes has a rocker thats 0.2" offset.
That would be intressting

Posted By: Streetwize

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 01/21/13 03:42 PM

Also, just like shown on the 408 motor graph, the torque is very broad and maintains at least 85-90% of peak over a very broad RPM range; Ex: look how long you have at least 420 lb/ft from on a 495-ish peak...over a 3000+ rpm range. IMO that is the sign of a well executed and HP/Tq efficient combo, broad torque that results in a near linear hp curve (which is the rate of HP gain per RPM increase). Broad torque gives you a combo that will work well on the street as well as at the track, don't overcam, keep the Peak torque RPM at a reasonable RPm level for block preservation and let good flowing heads and induction do the HP work above that RPM point to keep as much of the torque for as long as you can.

Posted By: Bryce Mulvey

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 01/21/13 05:16 PM

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Bryce nice results. Can you fix your average at the bottom of the columns-It looks like it is using the median method and not the sum divided by total points method. Do you think the cam is what limited peak power at 6200 rpm? How were you circulating water without turning the pump in the video? Oh and you should sell me that X-celerator, I could use it for my own cratekiller program. J.Rob

J rob

the intake is the limiting factor on the peak power it a has a smaller CSA in the runner than the heads

I'm not a big fan of it but seams to work ok. A old strip domintaor would be the best choice

We used a stand along water pump for the dyno testing and the blades were cut out of the water pump.

I'll look in to averages. The dyno is set up in stock DTS forum.

Posted By: sshemi

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 01/21/13 05:26 PM

Bryce you got pm

Posted By: sshemi

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 01/21/13 07:15 PM

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Bryce you got pm

And again

Posted By: Bryce Mulvey

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 01/22/13 01:08 AM

took the engine off the dyno and man this thing was running clean!!

Posted By: DJVCuda

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 01/22/13 01:28 AM

your AFR's reflect the way that valve looks - it was leaner then I like to run it for the most power if they were accurate.

Posted By: Streetwize

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 01/22/13 04:43 PM

Bryce,

what did you calculate the Min/Max CSA of the X-cellerator to be? I know it's smaller than a Victor but IIRC it's bigger than a torker or Torker 2. Also has less taper than an M1 or the old Strip Dominator.

What is your opinion on runner length and how it effects flow? Longer strokes tend to like shorter runners when the cross sections are relatively small for the displacement, at some point the total runeer length itself (plenum to Valve) becomes a flow restriction. That's in part why I think (theorize) that a ported Victor could be a HP advantage over a SV on a longer 4+" stroke motor is the CSA and min/max CSa's were identical. additional Runner length tends to be beneficial below peak torque, but beyond that point becomes a HP restriction.(as RPM increases the motor would like the runner to be shorter and shorter = CLOSER to the carb)

It there a formula for runner taper (Plenum CSA relative to Runner outlet CSA) that works best for mopar Wedges? runner length (and more appropriately -Total Runner Volume) also comes into play here as well in terms of inertia tuning but that's too much to go into here I think.

Posted By: OUTLAW MOPAR

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 01/28/13 11:53 PM

I placed an order for these heads the last week of november 2012. It is now the last week of january 2013. I called Dr. J's today 1/28/13 and a message comes on that says this number has been DISCONNECTED. Should l be worried. Has anyone else found the same.

Posted By: Streetwize

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 01/28/13 11:55 PM

Bryce sent mine within a week, but these were the 633 horse Dyno heads. Bryce ALWAYS has been straight-up to my knowledge

Posted By: Chris'sBarracuda

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 01/29/13 12:57 AM

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I placed an order for these heads the last week of november 2012. It is now the last week of january 2013. I called Dr. J's today 1/28/13 and a message comes on that says this number has been DISCONNECTED. Should l be worried. Has anyone else found the same.

Jan. 18th..

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=...e=1&theater

Chris..

Posted By: Headhunter22

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 02/09/13 06:15 AM

Not a user or buyer of the heads but anyone that does not run from criticism or customer concern (disconnected phone) deserves recognition.

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/18/13 03:54 AM

Does anyone know what's happening with Bryce/Airwolf/Dr J's and the supply of these heads???

I've been trying to contact Bryce for several months and I'm not getting a regular response. I did talk to him once and he said the heads were in the CNC shop and were being sold as they were being produced and at that time I reconfirmed my order.

That was probably 2 months ago and I still don't get a return phone call or e-mail even though I've left at least 5 voice mails and sent 7 or 8 e-mails.

Any ideas???

Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/18/13 04:27 AM

I hate when you have to beg to buy a set of imported heads..

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/18/13 04:42 AM

Everything's imported to me!

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/18/13 05:24 AM

Certainly not what you would call customer service. These guys want to sell parts but don't want to talk to the customer, glad I deal with big blocks.

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/18/13 05:35 AM

Yes, I'm surprised actually. Especially given the amount of effort that's gone into advertising them through this site and how good they are etc. I'm guessing its a pretty small shop and he's flat out, hence my question is it me or is no-one else getting a response?

Posted By: MoparBilly

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/19/13 04:13 AM

MisterBee,
My timeline has went like this:
April 4th First inquiring e-mail, got a reply from Bryce in 12 hours.
April 16th e-mail, and phone call, no reply to either.
April 23 phone call no answer.
April 24th e-mail reply from Bryce in the AM, to e-mail I sent on 16th
April 24th reached Bryce by phone in the PM, hashed out the deal, set the price, and he promised to charge my card, and send an invoice via e-mail. Said he was "3 weeks out" on the heads.
May 16th reached Bryce by phone on my second attempt. He explained he was overwhelmed with demand, and explained he was still probably "2 weeks out". I explained that I hadn't been charged, or received an invoice, so I was worried that we didn't really have a deal. He promised to "take care of that this afternoon".
June 6th The charge for the purchase price appeared on my credit card statement.

I have not had any correspondence with Bryce since then, I have still not received an invoice, or the heads. I have 3 cars to work on, and I have yet to assemble the short block the heads are destined for, so I haven't made any efforts to contact him in the last month, figuring my time is better spent on the stuff that is in front of me.

So, yeah, it's not just you, if that helps!

Posted By: draginmopars

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/19/13 02:44 PM

i started on this adventure
May 8

was told also 3 weeks

have left many phone messages and e-mails

have NOT heard anything until

CC was charged last week.

and STILL,NO Response from Bryce

even trying the # he posted
(please call my cell 714-943-3404)

so,I tried once again to get info on shipping date
No luck

called again yesterday, left another message

hope all is good

Cause,I don't know how I'll ever,be able to get in touch with him,
IF there is a problem with the Heads.....

Posted By: J_BODY

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/20/13 01:12 AM

There you go Billy.... those W8 mills are still sitting. At least that way you'd have all the parts "in hand".

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/25/13 03:05 AM

OK, thanks for that. Not sure what to do now. Keep trying to contact or just get some CNC ported Edelbrocks. I certainly liked the idea of these heads as they were a bit different but a still a bolt on proposition. Started getting excited and was thinking of building a nice sb with BPE 4.25 stroke and R3 block. Would be a killer combo I think.

I'd be worried my money's been taken with out any goods to show for it too!! Especially for me being from Australia.

Was really hoping Bryce would pipe in.

Please keep us in the loop if anything happens!

Shannon

Posted By: FuryBoy

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/25/13 04:03 AM

Dang, just got the new mag with these heads featured in them. Bummer.

Posted By: draginmopars

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/25/13 04:09 AM

Gayle contacted him about our heads on his facebook page

This last Saturday HE CALLED me, said that a new shipment of casting has just arrived

I SHOULD see the heads this coming Monday the 29TH

Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/25/13 04:38 AM

They must be on a REALLY slow boat from China. They should get a ship with an American engine to ship them over.

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/25/13 04:48 AM

Sounds promising!!!

Posted By: RobX4406

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/25/13 04:51 AM

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They must be on a REALLY slow boat from China. They should get a ship with an American engine to ship them over.

Ships captain sum ting wong has blamed his first mate Wi tu slow for any shipping delays.

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/26/13 03:51 AM

Not his material...pinched from a US news service sucked in to showing it in relation to a Chinese Air Crash.

Posted By: 72Swinger

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/26/13 05:39 AM

Funny thing is the aluminum used to cast those heads probably originated right here in the good ole U S S of A...

Posted By: RobX4406

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/27/13 05:10 PM

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Not his material...pinched from a US news service sucked in to showing it in relation to a Chinese Air Crash.

Yes, which was pinched from other jokes from stuff I heard in the 70's. Only one I hadn't heard previously was ding bang ow.

Posted By: mshred

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/27/13 06:59 PM

This isn't looking good for these heads, thats for sure.

Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/27/13 08:33 PM

Bryce work vearry, vearry hard on des heads.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/28/13 03:15 AM

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This isn't looking good for these heads, thats for sure.

Not to mention his reputation.

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/30/13 01:52 AM

I've deliberately not been derogatory towards Bryce because I had assumed that he was either flat out or there were other issues at play.

He pm'd me today and has said that he has some ready for shipment at the end of this week.

He has also explained that he's dealing with some personal,matters which I totally understand.

Hopefully things will sort themselves out in the next week or so.

Posted By: mshred

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/30/13 02:16 AM

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I've deliberately not been derogatory towards Bryce because I had assumed that he was either flat out or there were other issues at play.

He pm'd me today and has said that he has some ready for shipment at the end of this week.

He has also explained that he's dealing with some personal,matters which I totally understand.

Hopefully things will sort themselves out in the next week or so.

Awesome! That's definitely good to hear!

Posted By: draginmopars

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/30/13 06:00 PM

I talked to Bryce yesterday
He said I would have a tracking # by the night

He says he is a small shop,just covered up in orders.
and trying to deal with other situations,that are out of his control

SO,,,,,
I now, have a tracking #, should be here,in 3-4 days...

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/31/13 01:30 AM

That is wonderful for you guys but when running a business communication with customers or clients is a main key factor for success, how hard is to send an email regardless wether you have good news or bad news. I read the articles where he did a mopar, chevy and a ford and things looked really good, I hope he does well.

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/05/13 03:52 AM

Hi All,

Just following up. Did you blokes got your heads yet??

Posted By: all spooled up

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/05/13 04:19 AM

a guy on yellowbullet last night 8.00 pm called bryce out on where his heads where with in 10 mins bryce gave him a reply the power of yellowbullet

Posted By: MoparBilly

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/05/13 05:03 AM

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a guy on yellowbullet last night 8.00 pm called bryce out on where his heads where with in 10 mins bryce gave him a reply the power of yellowbullet.

Link to the thread or it never happened. And pics of the heads when you get them. Apparently this is a case of the squeaky wheel getting the grease...

Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/05/13 05:20 AM

I almost bought a set of the Pro comp heads off ebay as the prices are hard to beat but after porting a set of Chevy Pro comps this week its not gonna happen. The quality of the aluminum between them and Edelbrocks is like night and day. You can feel the difference in your hands and ears when grinding. The seats look like they are begging to fall out and the finish on these heads are terrible. DO NOT plan on running these ever out of the box.

Posted By: J_BODY

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/05/13 02:20 PM

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I almost bought a set of the Pro comp heads off ebay as the prices are hard to beat but after porting a set of Chevy Pro comps this week its not gonna happen. The quality of the aluminum between them and Edelbrocks is like night and day. You can feel the difference in your hands and ears when grinding. The seats look like they are begging to fall out and the finish on these heads are terrible. DO NOT plan on running these ever out of the box.

Bet ya a box of donuts they're better than most the W5's floating around from a metallurgy standpoint!

Posted By: Streetwize

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/05/13 03:17 PM

Bryce stated he gets the Procomps Bare and installs his own seats and guides, my Airwolfs are the dyno pair and (assuming they are representative to the production sets)I have zero issues with the quality of the hardware or metallurgy with my own set.

I'm hoping Bryce will get through the rough patch and get the supply up to the demand, in my own dealings with him he has been very professional and takes his client's product satisfaction very seriously.

Posted By: draginmopars

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/06/13 11:55 PM

Got the heads today

It was worth the wait, just wish I was told 3 months instead of 3 weeks

the machining is spot on,
looks to be a very good CNC program

a slight sand roll, will make the ports shine

I have only checked a few valves so far, the spring height is on the money and the springs checked all at 185 lbs at 1.900
(for my cam)

will be checking the valve job and guide clearances soon etc.

Thanks Bryce

Now hire a phone/ E-mail person, ya can't do it all by your self

Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/07/13 01:43 AM

Quote:

Got the heads today

It was worth the wait, just wish I was told 3 months instead of 3 weeks

the machining is spot on,
looks to be a very good CNC program

a slight sand roll, will make the ports shine

I have only checked a few valves so far, the spring height is on the money and the springs checked all at 185 lbs at 1.900
(for my cam)

will be checking the valve job and guide clearances soon etc.

Thanks Bryce

Now hire a phone/ E-mail person, ya can't do it all by your self

Are you going to flow test them? Just curious as to how they do. If anybody local buys a set and wants them checked on a flow bench I will do it for free.

Posted By: MoparBilly

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/07/13 02:30 AM

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Bryce stated he gets the Procomps Bare and installs his own seats and guides, my Airwolfs are the dyno pair and (assuming they are representative to the production sets)I have zero issues with the quality of the hardware or metallurgy with my own set.

I'm hoping Bryce will get through the rough patch and get the supply up to the demand, in my own dealings with him he has been very professional and takes his client's product satisfaction very seriously.

Tell me which part of getting heads out to someone who is blowing up his business phone, his cell phone, his e-mail, and his facebook, but ignoring a customer who placed his order a month earlier, and was charged a month earlier could be considered "professional"?
Actions, or in this case inaction, speaks far more loudly than words.

Posted By: Streetwize

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/07/13 01:55 PM

Billy,

I only stated what my own personal experiences have been, every word I stated was true as to my own transaction on the Airwolf Heads I bought from Bryce.

I have no doubt what you say is true but I think that Bryce probably hit an unforseen shipment rough patch and likely (quite unintentionally) your transaction got caught-up in it. Seems it's happened to all of us at one time or another but most times it gets set-right, that said, I do hope Bryce will get it all squared-up as best as possible with you soon

Posted By: J_BODY

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/07/13 02:06 PM

Personally the wait wouldn't bother me as much as the lack of communication.

Posted By: justinp61

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/07/13 02:36 PM

Quote:

Personally the wait wouldn't bother me as much as the lack of communication.

IMO communication is the first step in good customer service. In this electronic age it's simpler than ever.

Posted By: MoparBilly

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/08/13 03:24 PM

And still, nothing but crickets!

Mr. Bee, let me know when you get yours!

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/09/13 05:31 AM

Well, After he PM'd me (per above) I responded to him saying that once you have a total price let me know and I'll provide my CC number. I was thinking that it would happen fairly quickly.

I hadn't had response so I started ringing again. Then emailed him and contacted him via the Dr J's website. NB I'm also after a port matched manifold and a "big inch" small block - something along the lines of an R3 block with a BPE crank and a solid Roller. I want a pretty big lazy motor that doesn't have to rev its [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] off to make power.

I had a response from Bryce this morning (My time)saying to ring his cell phone so I'll try that later tonight (big time difference between Australia and California). Hopefully we'll be able to stitch something up ASAP as its dragging on a bit.

Slightly off topic but anyone know a good source for nice short per my description above? Was thinking Bryce or Hughes (also thought about Indy but they don't seem to have a good rep for issue resolution) but I don't want the $$$ to get out of control...

SF

Posted By: MoparBilly

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/09/13 01:21 PM

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NB I'm also after a port matched manifold and a "big inch" small block - something along the lines of an R3 block with a BPE crank and a solid Roller. I want a pretty big lazy motor that doesn't have to rev its tail off to make power.

Slightly off topic but anyone know a good source for nice short per my description above? Was thinking Bryce or Hughes (also thought about Indy but they don't seem to have a good rep for issue resolution) but I don't want the $$$ to get out of control...

SF

Seriously,
Brian at IMM (IMMengines.com)
If I'd have just taken him my X block, the 4.125 BPE kit(beautiful kit, and while it took a little longer than expected to get, Rod was in constant contact with us), and my set of worn out 90K miles Edelbrocks, I'd have 575 Hp sitting between the fenders right now, instead of being jerked around like this!

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/10/13 01:55 AM

Thanks - I'll check him out!

Posted By: vc360

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/10/13 09:39 AM

Quote:

Well, After he PM'd me (per above) I responded to him saying that once you have a total price let me know and I'll provide my CC number. I was thinking that it would happen fairly quickly.

I hadn't had response so I started ringing again. Then emailed him and contacted him via the Dr J's website. NB I'm also after a port matched manifold and a "big inch" small block - something along the lines of an R3 block with a BPE crank and a solid Roller. I want a pretty big lazy motor that doesn't have to rev its [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] off to make power.

I had a response from Bryce this morning (My time)saying to ring his cell phone so I'll try that later tonight (big time difference between Australia and California). Hopefully we'll be able to stitch something up ASAP as its dragging on a bit.

Slightly off topic but anyone know a good source for nice short per my description above? Was thinking Bryce or Hughes (also thought about Indy but they don't seem to have a good rep for issue resolution) but I don't want the $$$ to get out of control...

SF

Try Tony at Brinks Performance in Townsville. He won't let you down.

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/12/13 02:59 AM

Thanks mate, will try and contact him ASAP.

Still haven't heard from Bryce. Passion to keep chasing is starting to wane...

Posted By: J_BODY

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/15/13 02:54 PM

"More AIRWOLF 220 mopars .. We can't seam to keep these in stock and on the shelf"

taken from their facebook page last night.... doesn't say how many sets.

Posted By: J_BODY

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/15/13 06:49 PM

....I had to ask, and here's what they said:

"Jay we are sending heads out this week and Billy is on the list."

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/16/13 11:23 PM

Hi All,

Well, I was just about to give up on all this, and a mate of mine suggested I try one more time.

Well Bryce answered, remembered me and was in the process of packaging the heads off to send.

He's advised that they had a bad batch of castings and the new lot has come through now.

Hopefully I'll see them in a week or two!!!

I'll let you all know how it goes!!!

Posted By: MoparBilly

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 08/31/13 05:51 AM

PLEASE QUIT ORDERING HEADS FROM THIS GUY!

So I can move up the list...

Still nothing...gonna have to make a drive to Cali when I get back from Dragweek!

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 09/01/13 12:23 AM

Update from me.

Bryce has advised the heads have been sent and he has taken the $$ out of my account. This has happened in the last week or so.

Waiting for shipping info, but hopefully it shouldn't be too far away.

SF

Posted By: J_BODY

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 09/01/13 03:34 AM

Quote:

PLEASE QUIT ORDERING HEADS FROM THIS GUY!

So I can move up the list...

Still nothing...gonna have to make a drive to Cali when I get back from Dragweek!

"Billy's heads were shipped and he should have got them on Friday. I will see what's going on with the ups"

....someday you might decode the secret circle of the small block mopar!

Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 09/01/13 04:59 AM

Tracking number.

Attached picture 7834891-chinese_writing_master(standard)-113493-5.jpeg

Posted By: J_BODY

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 09/01/13 06:17 AM

I'm just on the outside looking in Pittsracer... I met Billy and his family at a Mopar Shootout in Tuscon years ago and he's a guy you want in your circle. No bs, true to his word, and a handshake means something. Though I seldom see him, I consider him a friend... enough to go to bat for him. I had just noted on Dr. J's facebook page that they had noted that their were more heads done and that they were "overwhelmed" with responses for them. I responded that Billy had been patiently waiting for some time with no response, or heads and they replied to me. I posted those results here. I went on again tonight (not looking like Billy facebooks, or at least with Dr. J) and they replied within an hour... so again, I posted the reply. At this point, making it "public" will at least show that just maybe Dr J's is trying the best that they can... I don't know jack diddly about their operation. I hear it's a "one man show" and the service for Billy would so far reflect that... that's assuming that the "one guy, overwhelming demand", scenario is what's going on here. I just hope he gets his heads soon and he's able to adapt to the "small block boys club". He's been trying really hard to fit in. I'm thinking he's thinking this is all some kind of strange initiation to the "Small block Mopar" club....though I'm not going to let him in on the secret handshake

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 09/01/13 06:35 AM

No no no.... dont show him the SECRET hand shake..
he's been a BB guy way to long to see the shake so soon..LOL

Posted By: J_BODY

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 09/01/13 08:42 AM

I've seen his "W5's" Mike.... he's definately not ready for the secret handshake!

Posted By: Just-a-dart

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 09/01/13 08:54 AM

Just show him the 1st 1/2 make him figure out the rest as he greets us at the races

Posted By: J_BODY

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 09/04/13 11:03 PM

Jay I checked the ups and billy got his heads on 9/3

Message I got on DrJ's Facebook....

Posted By: Bignick

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 09/05/13 03:30 AM

What is Dr J's facebook page called? Can't find it.

Posted By: Chris'sBarracuda

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 09/05/13 03:39 AM

Quote:

What is Dr J's facebook page called? Can't find it.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Js-Performance/153285404697324

Chris..

Posted By: rolling 340

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 09/05/13 06:53 PM

I ordered mine August 26th and they came in today.

Posted By: MoparBilly

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 09/06/13 02:05 AM

The Wife called and said a Dr. J's box arrived on Tuesday, but I'm already in OK, getting ready for Drag Week. Thanks for the effort, and kind words J-body, even if I'm not in "the Club"!

Posted By: clonestocker

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 09/06/13 02:40 AM

Billy,
Enjoy Drag Week. We'll need to get together at the track one of these days. It's been a while

.

matt

Posted By: B3422W5

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 09/06/13 02:46 AM

What I am itching to know is if these heads will support an honest 650 ponies with a good non exotic roller cam shortblock under them 400+ inch 4 inch motor...
If so

If not.....

Posted By: Triple Threat

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 09/06/13 11:41 PM

Quote:

What I am itching to know is if these heads will support an honest 650 ponies with a good non exotic roller cam shortblock under them 400+ inch 4 inch motor...
If so

If not.....

I wonder this as well. Hopefully some of these guys buying them up will share numbers with us when the motors are together. My current 59* motor makes about 625, but its bigger and fancier than most.

Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 09/07/13 12:23 AM

My offer still stands for a FREE flow test. Then we will know how they stack up against Edelbrocks or Indy's

Posted By: MIKES_DUSTER

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 09/23/13 05:55 AM

How much are these heads????

Posted By: 70AARcuda

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 09/23/13 06:43 AM

http://www.j-performance.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59

Posted By: RobX4406

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 09/23/13 07:40 AM

Quote:

http://www.j-performance.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59

Google or Bing much be very difficult to manage...

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 11/08/13 11:15 AM

Hi All,

Have got the heads now. Took a while but got there in the end.

Now just have to get the time to put them on.

I haven't had a real good look at them yet but look decent.

Posted By: mshred

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 03/11/14 04:40 AM

Was thinking about SB options in general, and remembered about these heads...seems they haven't been mentioned at all in a while.

Anybody else bought a set that they are going to be testing or have already tested? Would be interesting to see some numbers/results from others besides Bryce himself

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/20/17 11:12 PM

Hi All,

Its been a while, and probably a moot point now because so much time has passed. However, I finally got to take my AIRWOLF 220 heads to a reputable head/ engine shop in the last couple of weeks (yes 4 years later...I know)

The shop were initially skeptical of the advertised numbers but were impressed with the results and the quality of the heads generally...here are the results;

Lift .100 .200 .300 .400 .500 .600 .700 .800 .900
Cyl 1 Int Corr. CFM 61.7 137.9 203.2 256.0 290.8 297.8 304.4 309.1 312.6
Cyl 1 Exh Corr. CFM 58.4 110.0 147.3 175.5 194.4 209.6 218.8 221.8 222.4

I'll try and show you the full sheet once I work out how to load it (PDF).

Posted By: B3422W5

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/20/17 11:16 PM

Very impressive at 1/2 inch

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/21/17 01:30 AM

OK here's the PDF File for those interested (hope this works)!

Posted By: Adobedude

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/21/17 01:38 AM

Nope......LOL

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/21/17 01:49 AM

Are these heads still being sold.. anyone
know the pricing.. thanks

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/21/17 03:43 AM

Not that I know of - I bought them a few years ago but have taken ages to get to the stage to put something together.

Posting for interest only.

Posted By: J_BODY

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/21/17 04:05 AM

yeah the last we knew is that Bryce fell off the face of the earth with some people money.... a search awhile back found some picts and name in results at some SoCal dirt tracks.

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/21/17 04:10 AM

Originally Posted By J_BODY

yeah the last we knew is that Bryce fell off the face of the earth with some people money.... a search awhile back found some picts and name in results at some SoCal dirt tracks.

Damn.. they looked like a decent head... bummer
because I was looking for a set of heads

Posted By: MoparBilly

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/21/17 04:28 AM

Funny this got brought up again, because I was wondering why someone didn't step in and buy Bryce out, then try to keep the AirWolf name and products going. Since then I've been watching this whole Keith Black debacle unfold, and it's abundantly clear why they let it die on the vine!!

As far as the heads... three torturous Drag Weeks, running down back roads at temps between 210 and 230 for over 3200 miles. Zero issues, heads are still dry. 10.39-128 motor, 9.65-138 bottle 300/600 flat tappet cam.

Posted By: madscientist

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/21/17 04:30 AM

Refresh my memory...what castings did he use?

Posted By: J_BODY

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/21/17 04:52 AM

I remember you getting somewhat nervous Billy.... you have one of the few sets running I'm betting.

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/21/17 04:59 AM

Originally Posted By madscientist

Refresh my memory...what castings did he use?

If I remember right they started as Pro Comps

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/21/17 09:47 AM

Yep Prop Comps - There was some conjecture as to whether they were the standard casting or a modified version.

I seem to remember Bryce talking about a couple of changes he asked Edelbrock to make to their casting but they wouldn't, so he went to Pro Comp.

It would be interesting to see if he or someone else has the AIRWOLF CNC programme, esp if it was run on the std Pro Comp Casting.

Posted By: fast68plymouth

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/21/17 04:48 PM

The main issue I see with the AW heads, at this point in time is........ What if you damaged one bad enough to need another one?

For someone who already owns a set, that's a moot point. You just run em and hope for the best.
But if a few sets of "NOS" showed up in the market, I'd have to think about how deep I'd want my build to be based on something where a replacement wasn't available.

In that regard I put them in the same catagory as the Chapman Stage 6's...... Except for the price of course.

Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/21/17 04:55 PM

This is interesting. I know they are talking Chevy here but a partnership my be a partnership and you may be able to get these buying off Speier Racing Heads unless he screwed him too.

http://speierracingheads.com/airwolf.htm

Posted By: fast68plymouth

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/21/17 05:22 PM

Those SBC heads are made from Profiler castings....... Which are readily available.

I'd be surprised if you couldn't still get those through Spierer..... Unless he's come up with something better since.

Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/24/17 02:30 PM

If they start out as Pro Comp heads, couldn't they be copied fairly easy?

Posted By: Streetwize

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/24/17 04:21 PM

I think I have the only other "known" set on moparts besides Billy. Mine were alledgedly the dyno set used on Dulcich's 408 dyno mule for the original magazine set.

No QC issues except for the fact that the springs Bryce said I got were nowhere near the advertised seat/open pressures stated on the Build sheet. So the second pass down the track they floated #2 intake valve which fortunately didn't cost me more than a tear down and a little emory clean up on the slug.

I called Bryce about it but got ZERO for a reply, no "my bad"....nada. But seeing them disassembled the Port work in the bowls, runners and even the chambers all looked great though. Wondered what they could flow with a PR relo/tube and maybe an offset intake rocker....maybe a legit 315-320? And the only thing that was borderline concerning QC wise was that the port roof to seat cup 'meat' in the casting was a little bit thin on the caliper measurement, but with But we put a new set of PAC's on them and I shift every run at 6800 with a 260/269@.050 .665/640 lift Solid roller Bullet cam.

Posted By: fast68plymouth

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/24/17 06:27 PM

This isn't a suggestion......... more like a thought that popped in to my head.......

It would make for an interesting dyno test session...... AW220 vs BPE heads vs Hughes Big Mouth vs some decent hand ported RPM's....... All on the same 422-ish roller cammed short block.

Posted By: dogdays

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/25/17 03:10 AM

Bryce Mulvey is the new mouthpiece for CPP-Carrillo. Talk about landing on your feet!

He and his wife-to-be were on a reality TV program and lost something like 195 lb so they'd look good for their wedding.

Bryce was part of the team that built the Buick 400 for last year's Enginemasters. He ported the Edelbrock heads and called them Airwolf, so it looks like he wants to keep that name for himself. I wasn't aware that there was a CNC program for his Mopar heads. He also called himself Dr. J's at one time. You can see it in Fall 2016 Enginemasters.

R.

Posted By: fast68plymouth

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/25/17 04:16 PM

If he were a stand up guy...... Which he's shown he's not......now that he's got a decent steady income......... He could start repaying all the people he's swindled out of their hard earned $$$, or start supplying the products they paid for.
It wouldn't have to be overnight...... But he could pick away at it.

Frankly, I'd have a hard time even doing business with CP at this point, knowing they hired someone with so little integrity.

Posted By: AndyF

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/25/17 09:35 PM

There seems to be a small percentage of guys in the hobby who are grifters or scammers or maybe just big talkers who don't deliver. Guys who develop new heads or blocks but never seem to deliver anything other than a stream of excuses.

One nice thing about the internet is some of that behavior is now kept in check since anyone who knows how to use Google should be able to find out if they are dealing with a scammer or not.

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/26/17 12:42 PM

Hang on a minute lads...do any of you actually know anyone who paid him, but didn't get what they paid for?

In my personal dealings with him he was a decent bloke.

Obviously, at the time he was going through a fairly traumatic separation/divorce with the custody of his young boy involved. He's no orphan in going through that, but I'm guessing it would've had a pretty big impact on his life at the time.

I think that was the major contributor to the issues I had contacting him, and him getting me what I was after. At the end of the day he did send me the heads, they were very good quality and I did get what I paid for. Yes, it was a pain in the neck but we got there in the end.

Like I said before its all a bit moot now, but if there are people with outstanding issues hes not exactly hard to find. For the blokes that are interested in getting a set of heads why not contact him and see if he's willing to get a set done for you?

Posted By: J_BODY

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/26/17 03:19 PM

you posted in the very same discussion back in the day:

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/1689226/2.html

although the dude in Colorado didn't reply or update, it probably wasn't ever resolved. There were other besides Mopar guys that got the stick broke off in them. Remember reading that on the bullet.

Posted By: fast68plymouth

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/26/17 04:11 PM

Plenty of unhappy people over on YB who paid and got nothing.

Posted By: LaRoy Engines

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 07/27/17 02:08 AM

Originally Posted By fast68plymouth

If the thought ever came to fruition, and I was rich, I'd like to have some skin in that game. As something different, I believe my choice would be to prepare the Indy LAX iron head.

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 04/04/20 10:11 PM

Hi All,

For those interested, I got my Airwolf/ Bloomer combo going after a few years of gathering parts!

The engine was built by Marcus Giobbi at Bullet Race Engineering in Adelaide, South Australia. They do a lot of high-end billet stuff so in comparison to all that, my engine is a bit agricultural.

After all this time and effort, I've got to say I'm pretty happy with it, and the engine builder was really impressed with the quality of the heads and the crank.

The only real issue we had was with valvetrain geometry, and associated spring to rocker clearance, but that was fixed pretty easily.

Anyway, long story short - combo is as follows;

360 +.040
Bloomer 4.25 crank with 11.7 comp
98 Octane fuel
Air Wolf heads
Solid Roller Cam - 257 duration @ .050 .645 lift
1050 Quick Fuel 4150 Carb

Dyno'd at 625hp @ 6100 with peak 597ft/lbs of torque at 5100.

Torque was 580 from 4200

Really happy with the results and the whole process so far.

Just got to get it in a car now and get to the track!

All the best to everyone! I hope this gives you all some inspiration!

Posted By: Ian

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 04/06/20 08:31 AM

Good job mate,what intake are you running and pipes those boys do trick work over there,i thought she may have peaked higher in the rpm.

Posted By: 70AARcuda

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 04/07/20 02:59 AM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/184240844845?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

speedmaster 215cc CNC heads.....

Posted By: tubtar

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 04/07/20 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by 70AARcuda

https://www.ebay.com/itm/184240844845?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

speedmaster 215cc CNC heads.....

Not CNC as I understand the term.....and assembled with " their " valves and springs
https://www.jegs.com/i/Speedmaster/746/PCE281.2151/10002/-1

Posted By: tubtar

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 04/07/20 04:04 AM

For the extra 100.00 , these seem to be a bargain.

Cylinder heads

Posted By: 70AARcuda

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 04/07/20 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by tubtar

For the extra 100.00 , these seem to be a bargain.

Cylinder heads

Those are the ones I link too...that did now link....

Posted By: tubtar

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 04/07/20 07:24 AM

Yessir.
It took me a minute to figure out a proper link for them.
The heads from Jegs are the same castings I think , but do not get nearly the attention , or they would be crowing flow numbers.
I wish I would have seen those two weeks ago , but I bought a set from Toth.
Less money , but less cylinder head too.

Posted By: cudadoug

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 04/08/20 12:00 AM

Not to be a negative Nelly, but those are pretty stout flow numbers for $2000. I'd like to see the flow numbers on a "known" reputable bench.

Posted By: hemi471

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 04/08/20 10:22 AM

I thought the same thing, if had to choose I would buy the new Trick Flow heads.

Posted By: MisterBee

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 04/22/20 03:59 AM

Hi apologies for the slow delay.

Intake is a ported M1 - Pipes were dyno pipes 1 3/4 into 3"

He's built a few SBM strokers - mostly 408s, and reckons anything with the stock port arrangement peaks at about 6400.

Posted By: RAMM

Re: AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360 - 04/22/20 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by cudadoug

Not to be a negative Nelly, but those are pretty stout flow numbers for $2000. I'd like to see the flow numbers on a "known" reputable bench.

Ya really, 270 @ .400" --I seriously doubt that. Missing sparkplug is usually about 30cfm. J.Rob

AIRWOLF 220 Sbm heads tested on 360