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The Dart won both times because the Camaro could not hook and the driver was not as slick as that slick shifting Hemi at mid-range. My friend was at the race and saw the whole thing from start to finish.
Hemi was fast, but the Camaro was a bit faster and with out a good driver, the car was drunk and it was a done deal. It happened on the old stretch leading up to 150th St, not the stretch every one knows today.

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with ya, Lee,..but actually the Hemi outlegged the Camaro on the big end.

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GREAT story!!!! Wonder where those cars are at now???

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Eugene Coard the last one living of THE MUTT BROS./RON LYLES CREW is a member here

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Big respect to you Eugene AND the Mutt Bros. Crew!! Thanks for "building the school" and
"teaching" us younguns (back in the day) how it's done.

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What does it say on the side of the scoop?

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One of those guys is called Seymour Balz?

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If I remember correctly, that's Joe Oldham...went by "Seymour Balz" in the magazines though.

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You "remember" incorrectly. Joe Oldham wrote for Hi-Performance Cars Magazine plus other magazines put out by Martin L. Schorr's company and used his real name. Seymour Balz is the one who used a nom de plume (real name Pat Cunningham) and wrote for Hot Cars and other magazines published by publisher who whose name I forget.

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Fred. Ever heard of a gent who has now passed away by the name of Jimmy Connie. He was a lead foot for Heavy.

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Lee I* was at Heavies when he had a fleet of pumkin Camaros and met many of the guys and could have but I don't remember him

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Lee,

Jimmy's correct surname is Carney. The way (most) New Yawkers would pronounce it, it does come out sounding "Connie."

Fred,

Jimmy wouldn've been hard to miss amongst that crowd (if he was there that day) 'cause he was a white guy.

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Too cool. The Mutt brothers were big in that and they did use ex Sox & Martin race cars from what I heard. I like the 68 Cuda with the Pro Stock type of scoop from that era. Thanks for posting. Ron

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This is the 1968 Barracuda (updated with 1969 sheetmetal) that Ron Lyles bought from Sox & Martin. I can tell by the way the rear quarter panels are deflecting upon launch. My guess that's due to a little too long in the acid dipping tank and/or no subframe connectors.

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that was a cool read

A few more racers I remember

Peter Draggin
IP Freely

Ahh the good ole days

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I remember Mike Oxuge amd Hugh Jorgan

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"Super John" McFadden
From Brooklyn, NY. McFadden, also known as "Big John", owned a 1969 Chevrolet Camaro which he had **** Harrell modify into an SS/AA legal racer. He raced Ronald Lyles of the Mutt Brothers in possibly the most famous street race to ever occur. This race was called the "Quarter Million Quarter Mile". He also raced in Pro Stock for Dick Harrell.

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That SS/AA designation is incorrect. No way John's Camaro could've fit in that class. That is Hemi Barracuda and Dart territory. In fact, if I remember correctly, the Hemi A-bodies weren't classified as such until 1971; prior to that they were still in SS/B and SS/BA.

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If I remember correctly, that's Joe Oldham...went by "Seymour Balz" in the magazines though.

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i haven't heard that name in YEARS ! wasn't the head shot of seymore balz a guy with a pointy hat and "ed roth" style gotee ? he certainly had an amusing editorial style to say the least.

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i haven't heard that name in YEARS ! wasn't the head shot of seymore balz a guy with a pointy hat and "ed roth" style gotee ? he certainly had an amusing editorial style to say the least.

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