help, i'm at my wit's end... fuel issues?
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05/08/11 04:38 PM
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so my new 500" low deck runs fantastic, nice crisp throttle response, feels like gobs of power, temp stays at 180 with the HHR fan and alum rad, good oil pressure but I can't even make it to the gas station to fill up because of this weird problem. once the car is fully warmed up and i get about 2-3 blocks away from home the car starts wanting to die when idling in gear, if i throw it in park it recovers and runs perfect and as long as i'm driving it's fine it's just idling in gear at a stop. I put a small pressure gauge at the carb and was running a brand new carter hp pump and the needle would bounce between 11-15 psi till it got hot then sit at 6psi and the clear plastic filter before the carb would start out full then it gets hot and would dry up so i put back my old fuel pump that worked perfect for years, same thing, starts out full then goes almost empty when it gets to operating temp, i can see a small trickle of gas enter the filter but it runs fine in park or neutral. new tank, new pickup, 3/8 steel line (not plugged) all new rubber sections, 2 different fuel pumps, brand new holley ultra hp 950, AAAARRRRGGHHH, i don't know what to do, is the filter supposed to be full of fuel? i would think so or am i missing something, sorry so long, HELP i want to drive
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Re: help, i'm at my wit's end... fuel issues?
[Re: dirtybee]
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05/08/11 05:18 PM
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I had a fuel pump push rod drive me crazy for a while,,,it was worn pretty bad,,,,not sure if that would cause the symptoms you describe,,, ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/1343795-scratchchin.gif) Pretty easy to check and see if the length is correct,,and not worn down,,,,
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Re: help, i'm at my wit's end... fuel issues?
[Re: dirtybee]
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05/08/11 05:55 PM
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Things that come to mind: Fuel is boiling in the carb. Float levels are too low. Tank is not venting. Vacuum leak.
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Re: help, i'm at my wit's end... fuel issues?
[Re: Crizila]
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05/08/11 07:21 PM
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I would rule out the pump rod, because if it was warn, it wouldn't change things from hot too cold, I would look into a vapor/venting problem, if it runs/idles good when cold & the filter has alot of fuel in it, but drains when its warm, somethings not right. another thing is, you say the pressure is up to 11-12 when cold, but drops too 6 & holds steady when warm, this shouldn't happen, when it does happens, you need to take off the sight screws on the carb & see if the bowls are low on fuel, if so, then you found the idling problem, if it drops too much in the bowl it'll screw up the metering & idling when become an issue, fuel pressure will drop also if there is air trapped from a bad venting system. Have you tried another guage to rule that out?
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Re: help, i'm at my wit's end... fuel issues?
[Re: dirtybee]
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05/08/11 08:17 PM
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Make up a fuel tank that you can hang from the hood so it gravity feeds... see if it runs on that... then do a flow test on your pump and tank set up... at least then you can say weather its a carb or supply issue ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif)
Last edited by MR_P_BODY; 05/08/11 08:23 PM.
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Re: help, i'm at my wit's end... fuel issues?
[Re: dirtybee]
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05/08/11 08:35 PM
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but it runs in park or if i'm driving in gear just when i'm stopped, like at a red light and in gear. the weird thing is it runs like this with an empty filter but the gauge reads 4-5 psi steady now that i have my old pump on it. i'll put a link of the new mill running with the other new carter hp pump for gtx dude.
Load it up in gear and see what it does... bring it up to about 2000 rpm in gear(with the brakes on) ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif)
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Re: help, i'm at my wit's end... fuel issues?
[Re: Chris'sBarracuda]
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05/08/11 10:27 PM
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By watching the Video, its easy to see that the Bypass is hanging on the electric fuel Pump.. Is this a Holley HP version? They are bad about doing this.
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Re: help, i'm at my wit's end... fuel issues?
[Re: Bob_Coomer]
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05/08/11 10:31 PM
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also looks like the fuel pressure is spiking to 12+PSI at times. have you noticed fuel flowing from the boosters at idle? It might be pushing through at idle cause the fuel pressure is highest then, it would be more manageable down the road not to load up.. Fuel pressure shouldn't be much more than 8 PSI... Either your fuel pump is junk, or its the regulator.. Its shouldn't be dancing around on the gauge like that.. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Twocents.gif)
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