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Dana 60 build #984889
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Ok, I am working on building a Dana 60 to put behind my Hemi in my 68 Charger. I picked up a used truck housing that I am planning on converting to use in a car. I typically build jeeps so this is a little new for me to build a car axle. Right now I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee rear disc brake set up. The Jeep Grand Cherokee WMS is 61" WMS, its within an inch of the b body axle. I had a pair of Dana 44 front shafts that were laying around, they are the same spline as the 60, 30 spline, 1.310 diameter. I am planning on usiing a set of Jeep/mopar bearing ends, a typical jeep Dana 44 uses a Timken set 10 bearings, will they fit the Dana shafts? Are they similar to the Green bearings? Any help and advice would be appreciated. Tim

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I guess its time for pictures...Here is a carrier bearing girdle I found with installation pics....

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Dana 60 gears in a 60 housing

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Dana 70 gears in a 60 housing...note the clearance!

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Clearancing the top of the 60 housing.

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Clearancing the middle.

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Clearancing the bottom!

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Dana 60 and 70 comparison! This takes a heavy duty 35 spline Dana 60 rated for 6000lbs of shear force and gives it the 70 ring gear's 8000lbs of shear force.

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Sorry to hijack guys. But has anyone made my mistake. I started building a new rearend for the racecar and started with a Dana 70 by accident. I narrowed it and was about to weld everything up when I had a gut feeling that this housing looked too beefy. In researching it it is indeed a 70 housing. Now i have all the axles spool and guts from my previous 60 and was goind to reuse them. I realize the ring is bigger on the 70 and thus the larger housing but can the 60 parts be used in the 70 rather than me start all over again. I feel stupid but the housings are real close in appearance so I can't be the only guy to make this mistake. i have not measured anything to see if it will work as I just noticed it. Are the pinion bearings and side bearing sizes different. Obviously I can make the housing ends whatever I want but I think I am scrooood as I think I read somewhere the bearing sizes are different as well. Anyone know for sure----thanks

Greg

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Maybe, contact this guy, there are several links on Pirate4X4.com, search Jana 76. http://jantzengineering.com/index.htm

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Any more details on using a Dana 70 ring & pinion?

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I am still gathering my stuff, if you want to read the whole article, http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=946421&highlight=jana+76 I found this working with my jeep stuff, the offroad guys have been doing it for about a year. The cost is probably about 300.00 more than a 60 if you are buying all new. Here is the link to the girdle cover. It is 250.00 for the cover and girdle assembly. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=958047&highlight=jana+76 Tim

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Ok, I called about getting my housing narrowed and new ends put on. Including shafts and the ends it was 700.00. There is a 3 week lead time and the shipping quote I got was 115.00 each way. So now I need to get the 70 ring and pinion fit. I was also able to find an original dana 70 power lok for 150.00 used. Do these prices seem ok? Tim

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Sorry to hijack guys. But has anyone made my mistake. I started building a new rearend for the racecar and started with a Dana 70 by accident. I narrowed it and was about to weld everything up when I had a gut feeling that this housing looked too beefy. In researching it it is indeed a 70 housing. Now i have all the axles spool and guts from my previous 60 and was goind to reuse them. I realize the ring is bigger on the 70 and thus the larger housing but can the 60 parts be used in the 70 rather than me start all over again. I feel stupid but the housings are real close in appearance so I can't be the only guy to make this mistake. i have not measured anything to see if it will work as I just noticed it. Are the pinion bearings and side bearing sizes different. Obviously I can make the housing ends whatever I want but I think I am scrooood as I think I read somewhere the bearing sizes are different as well. Anyone know for sure----thanks

Greg




The carrier bearings in my 92 CTD dana 70 were the same part# as my dana 60 in the racecar. I can't remember on the pinion bearings. Beep

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Ok, I called about getting my housing narrowed and new ends put on. Including shafts and the ends it was 700.00. There is a 3 week lead time and the shipping quote I got was 115.00 each way. So now I need to get the 70 ring and pinion fit. I was also able to find an original dana 70 power lok for 150.00 used. Do these prices seem ok? Tim




Who is doing the work for you?

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I was talking to Dutchman, in Portland. I will install and clearance the gears but needed to get the housing narrowed and converted from a full floater truck axle. Tim

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Sutton Engineering in SoCal is good for this kind of work.

Sutton Engineering
220 9th Ave
Industry, CA. 91744
(626)961-9369


Advanced 4x4 in SLC also does this kind of work.

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I would use Loctite 39150 Loctite Bearing Mount Sticks. on the bearing race.

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Why?

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I would use Loctite 39150 Loctite Bearing Mount Sticks. on the bearing race.



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I would use Loctite 39150 Loctite Bearing Mount Sticks. on the bearing race.







Because you have less interference fit on the races and they mite spin. The 4x4 guys do not spinning the pinion as fast as a drag car. Better safe than sorry.

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Sorry to hijack guys. But has anyone made my mistake. I started building a new rearend for the racecar and started with a Dana 70 by accident. I narrowed it and was about to weld everything up when I had a gut feeling that this housing looked too beefy. In researching it it is indeed a 70 housing. Now i have all the axles spool and guts from my previous 60 and was goind to reuse them. I realize the ring is bigger on the 70 and thus the larger housing but can the 60 parts be used in the 70 rather than me start all over again. I feel stupid but the housings are real close in appearance so I can't be the only guy to make this mistake. i have not measured anything to see if it will work as I just noticed it. Are the pinion bearings and side bearing sizes different. Obviously I can make the housing ends whatever I want but I think I am scrooood as I think I read somewhere the bearing sizes are different as well. Anyone know for sure----thanks

Greg




As long as the shafts are the right length, they will work. Both D60 and D70 came with 35 spline (except for M715 front axle and 3/4 ton rear axles, 30 spline) Dana 70's have a 3.5" axle tube and are very very very heavy. If you weld on conventional housing ends you are good to go. If it is a truck, D70 and D60 use the same spindles

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Once I get a ring and pinion from a Dana 70, get everything clearanced, then I need to decide whether I need to stay local or pay the shipping for another vendor to narrow the housing and get shafts. This way if I screw up clearancing, I am only out the 50.00 for the truck housing I already bought. Either way I am looking at a total of about 1100-1200 if I can come up with a used Power lok, ring and pinion. There are several Dana 70s avaiable locally. Tim

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