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Re: Question on the stage V hemi 440 heads [Re: Mr.Yuck] #979308 04/29/11 07:24 AM 04/29/11 07:24 AM
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waspnest69 OP member W Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 28 searcy ark	I agree with you Mr Yuck.I was only going this route to look..KOOL HAHAHA Not really interested in the HP,my cars are mostly yard ornaments as everyone calls them.I Love looking at them and get alot of pleasure in seeing what the real man has created with his own Muscle car...no matter what make.money isnt really a problem for me and I thank God for that.But I do appreciate what the normal average Joe makes with his dollars.Alot of guys go out and buy thier cars already done and havent turned a single bolt on it..What fun is that?

Re: Question on the stage V hemi 440 heads [Re: waspnest69] #979309 04/29/11 07:28 AM 04/29/11 07:28 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Quote: I agree with you Mr Yuck.I was only going this route to look..KOOL HAHAHA Not really interested in the HP,my cars are mostly yard ornaments as everyone calls them.I Love looking at them and get alot of pleasure in seeing what the real man has created with his own Muscle car...no matter what make.money isnt really a problem for me and I thank God for that.But I do appreciate what the normal average Joe makes with his dollars.Alot of guys go out and buy thier cars already done and havent turned a single bolt on it..What fun is that? well then build ya a nice big hemi and drop a shiney huffer on top. Now that's eye candy! This one is in a 69 coronet. 6608229-69coronetrtbykbuckles_3.jpg (49 downloads)

Re: Question on the stage V hemi 440 heads [Re: Mr.Yuck] #979310 04/29/11 07:32 AM 04/29/11 07:32 AM
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waspnest69 OP member W Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 28 searcy ark	NICE!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Question on the stage V hemi 440 heads [Re: waspnest69] #979311 04/29/11 09:37 AM 04/29/11 09:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,324 A gulag near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,324 A gulag near you.	Quote: Yeah I best just listen to The Mopar Guys.I was reading at one time that someone was producing the 440 block only with the siamese caps.Has anyone else heard about this? I will go with the 426 Block I get the point but still was curious as to what else is being made.Damn Man that Roadrunner of yours is growing on me!!!!!!What do ya have for a power plant? Yes they make a wedge block like that but once again WHY buy that block then get the conversion heads, still have do all the mods even though that block is the exact same casting as the hemi block without the hemi machining and you still to buy a CUSTOM piston because a 440 at std bore is .070 larger than a hemi. A Stock hemi intake will bolt to the conversion heads, don't know where you got that info.

Re: Question on the stage V hemi 440 heads [Re: Pale_Roader] #979312 04/29/11 09:38 AM 04/29/11 09:38 AM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,324 A gulag near you.	Quote: I always wondered about a low-deck application for those heads... moot point, but still... You can do a low deck with the conversion heads but you'll have to fabricate an intake manifold .

Re: Question on the stage V hemi 440 heads [Re: JohnRR] #979313 04/29/11 12:01 PM 04/29/11 12:01 PM
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waspnest69 OP member W Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 28 searcy ark	I got my info from the place that makes the heads.There really isnt to much block work to do...do a little digging for the push rods and a little mod for oiling purposes...I just thought it would be fun and differnt is all...definately not trying to ruffle any feathers and not going for real high horses...im happy just looking and listening..LOL especially with 415 gas prices.

Re: Question on the stage V hemi 440 heads [Re: waspnest69] #979314 04/29/11 07:49 PM 04/29/11 07:49 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	I think the conversion heads are a cool idea, just with the cost I don't think there's really reason to do them versus just buying a repro hemi block. If you figured in the cost of buying a repro hemi block + repro or reworked stock hemi heads + all the top end stuff like rockers, intake, I think you'd run up about the same cost as the conversion setup. But at least that way you'd have the proper parts and everything would fit like it should instead of having to custom engineer everything.

Re: Question on the stage V hemi 440 heads [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #979315 04/30/11 02:03 PM 04/30/11 02:03 PM
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mr_340 master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,513 DFW	I seem to recall those heads needed special rocker arms (exhaust side only?) to extend the pushrod towards the lifter valley. You might want to grind the pushrod clearance before doing the rest of the machining in case you grind into the water jacket and ruin the wedge block. Floyd Lippencott IV

Re: Question on the stage V hemi 440 heads [Re: waspnest69] #979316 04/30/11 05:34 PM 04/30/11 05:34 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,315 MOPAR HEADQUARTERS IN ALDEN NY H hemigod426 top fuel
hemigod426 top fuel H Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,315 MOPAR HEADQUARTERS IN ALDEN NY	Quote: Im working on getting this done and just wanted to know if anyone else has done it? And can I use my stock power brake booster with this set up or is there no room? Its a 70 Super Bee. conversion hemi stuff is a mess would never tell anyone to use it then a 1,000 set of m/p headers only fit it. 20 years ago that stuff was used because at that time they did not repop everything like mopar and others do now. you can build a complete repop hemi now and pretty easy all new parts and cost effective. i kinda wish in one way they did not repop everything hemi,cause mopar only made 10,000 real ones and 20 years ago they was maybe 5,000 left in the county and to have oe ones were really rare. now seems to be 100,000 plus of 426 type motors out there now... MOPAR OR NO CAR

Re: Question on the stage V hemi 440 heads [Re: mr_340] #979317 04/30/11 06:01 PM 04/30/11 06:01 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	Quote: I seem to recall those heads needed special rocker arms (exhaust side only?) to extend the pushrod towards the lifter valley. You might want to grind the pushrod clearance before doing the rest of the machining in case you grind into the water jacket and ruin the wedge block. Ya they run special exhaust rockers. IIRC they are only 1.4 ratio as to move the pushrod far enough in.

Re: Question on the stage V hemi 440 heads [Re: waspnest69] #979318 04/30/11 06:17 PM 04/30/11 06:17 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,315 MOPAR HEADQUARTERS IN ALDEN NY H hemigod426 top fuel
hemigod426 top fuel H Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,315 MOPAR HEADQUARTERS IN ALDEN NY	heres a pick of there 1.60 roller rockers and stands there all different from stock hemi,see how short stands are thats not good 6610305-440assy.jpg (66 downloads) MOPAR OR NO CAR

Re: Question on the stage V hemi 440 heads [Re: waspnest69] #979319 04/30/11 06:22 PM 04/30/11 06:22 PM
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hemigod426 top fuel H Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,315 MOPAR HEADQUARTERS IN ALDEN NY	heres there the way to drain heads back to pan see russel line hacked into block, if you dont do this motor will cavatate pan and hold all oil in heads and blow up(sweet). remember 440 block deck is not sqaured off and no huge 7/16 drain holes from deck top through block to all four oil pan corners like real hemi block... 6610317-hemisml.jpg (43 downloads) MOPAR OR NO CAR

Re: Question on the stage V hemi 440 heads [Re: hemigod426] #979320 04/30/11 07:03 PM 04/30/11 07:03 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	I don't think adding the drain lines would be that big a deal. I would do 4 drains like stock instead of two, and weld bungs to the oil pan instead or drilling/tapping the block. Then span the gap with some bent steel line with flared on fittings. You would never see it once the engine was in the car. I wouldn't call it a deal breaker but is one more thing you have to do.

Re: Question on the stage V hemi 440 heads [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #979321 04/30/11 07:29 PM 04/30/11 07:29 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,315 MOPAR HEADQUARTERS IN ALDEN NY H hemigod426 top fuel
hemigod426 top fuel H Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,315 MOPAR HEADQUARTERS IN ALDEN NY	Quote: I don't think adding the drain lines would be that big a deal. I would do 4 drains like stock instead of two, and weld bungs to the oil pan instead or drilling/tapping the block. Then span the gap with some bent steel line with flared on fittings. You would never see it once the engine was in the car. I wouldn't call it a deal breaker but is one more thing you have to do. if you ever bolted a set of headers on a hemi you would know thats an impossible idea, most designs hug block and pan rail by 3/8 inch all over the place. the 2 1/4 tube ttis are like 1/4 away, and hit oil pan rail. and if it worked might look like hacked junk, with 4 places to leak from and get very hot from headers. 2 russels get it done and are solid and leak free but still look like hacked junk on stock type restored car MOPAR OR NO CAR

Re: Question on the stage V hemi 440 heads [Re: hemigod426] #979322 04/30/11 07:30 PM 04/30/11 07:30 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	You're right, I've never worked on a hemi. At least once it's in the car, you would never see the rigged oil lines from the top.

Re: Question on the stage V hemi 440 heads [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #979323 05/20/11 06:55 AM 05/20/11 06:55 AM
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waspnest69 OP member W Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 28 searcy ark	I actually talked to a guy that did this.He said he would do it again.Hes putting out 800hp and never had a problem,He used a 440 stock crank,Higher comp pistons,a few mods for oiling and push rod clearance.Hes been cruising it and occasionally beating on it and said he has had no problems what so ever.He also has a few original hemis and said they are built tuffer but cost much more.He has a girddle on the crank to.He has been into mopar since 1965 and said hes seen it all.He told me not to fear the 440 block,It may not be as stout as the 426 but not a weakling either.

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